The state of Saxony-Anhalt has said people who do not recognize Israel's right to exist cannot become naturalized citizens. The eastern state's interior minister said Germany's other 15 states should take similar steps.
The German state with the biggest numbers of AfD voters. Which has massive problems with police members getting caught sharing Nazi stuff in their chats all the time and generally is doing a very shitty job at combating local Neo-Nazis!
But I’m sure they are totally honest with the intent of this law and they are really concerned about anti-semitism.
The German state with the biggest numbers of AfD voters. Which has massive problems with police members getting caught sharing Nazi stuff in their chats all the time and generally is doing a very shitty job at combating local Neo-Nazis!
agreed. I’m german and would love get those afd cunts forbidden, but for some reason people think it’s not necessary…
it’s called learning from your mistakes. source: grew up in germany. once you’re shown original holocaust footage in school you don’t quite easily dismiss israel’s right to exist
A state has three defining features: A territory, a people and a government. Anyone who claims the right of Israel to exist should answer specifically which territory, which people and which government.
I have yet to see someone able to specify these in a way that does not involve forced displacement of Palestinians and justifying other crimes according to international law. And if someone refers only to the territorial areas according to the UN accords, then the next step would be to condemn Israel as a brutal opressive regime, that is illegaly occupying and trying to annex territories that they have no right to.
Finally there is no part of international law that gives states a right to exist. People have a right to exist and people have the right to sovereignity that they can exercise through a state. But as long as the current state of Israel exists it is denying this right to the Palestinians. So anyone claiming a right for Israel to exist is claiming support of crimes against humanity and denying millions of people their rights.
Oh and something that just crossed my mind too. While Israel gets a right to exist and is German “reason of state” because of the holocaust, other people that were just as terribly tortured and murdered by the Nazis did not and do not get the recognition. Queer people, people with disabilities, Sinti, Roma, Communists. None of them received proper reparations and acknowledgement by Germany. The jewish people are abused as a token to claim having bettered and learned from the past mistakes, while other Holocaust victims were and are continuously discriminated.
Haha, yeah sure! Sachsen of all states is learning from their mistake and honestly try to get rid of anti-semtitism! At least as long it’s from foreigners, if it’s their own police sharing Nazi stuff in chats then it’s no big problem and nothing can be done. Getting the biggest numbers of AfD voters also certainly isn’t a problem at all ;-).
I get that they want to make up for the holocaust, but this is a bit much…
it’s not germany it’s one state of germany…
The German state with the biggest numbers of AfD voters. Which has massive problems with police members getting caught sharing Nazi stuff in their chats all the time and generally is doing a very shitty job at combating local Neo-Nazis!
But I’m sure they are totally honest with the intent of this law and they are really concerned about anti-semitism.
agreed. I’m german and would love get those afd cunts forbidden, but for some reason people think it’s not necessary…
Isn’t it funny how the NPD wasn’t forbidden because it was to unsignificant but now the AfD apperantly can’t be forbidden because they are too big?
Seems to me this whole concept of the “Wehrhafte Demokratie” wasn’t properly thought through.
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it’s called learning from your mistakes. source: grew up in germany. once you’re shown original holocaust footage in school you don’t quite easily dismiss israel’s right to exist
The whole term is just nonsense.
A state has three defining features: A territory, a people and a government. Anyone who claims the right of Israel to exist should answer specifically which territory, which people and which government.
I have yet to see someone able to specify these in a way that does not involve forced displacement of Palestinians and justifying other crimes according to international law. And if someone refers only to the territorial areas according to the UN accords, then the next step would be to condemn Israel as a brutal opressive regime, that is illegaly occupying and trying to annex territories that they have no right to.
Finally there is no part of international law that gives states a right to exist. People have a right to exist and people have the right to sovereignity that they can exercise through a state. But as long as the current state of Israel exists it is denying this right to the Palestinians. So anyone claiming a right for Israel to exist is claiming support of crimes against humanity and denying millions of people their rights.
Oh and something that just crossed my mind too. While Israel gets a right to exist and is German “reason of state” because of the holocaust, other people that were just as terribly tortured and murdered by the Nazis did not and do not get the recognition. Queer people, people with disabilities, Sinti, Roma, Communists. None of them received proper reparations and acknowledgement by Germany. The jewish people are abused as a token to claim having bettered and learned from the past mistakes, while other Holocaust victims were and are continuously discriminated.
Haha, yeah sure! Sachsen of all states is learning from their mistake and honestly try to get rid of anti-semtitism! At least as long it’s from foreigners, if it’s their own police sharing Nazi stuff in chats then it’s no big problem and nothing can be done. Getting the biggest numbers of AfD voters also certainly isn’t a problem at all ;-).