What I was thinking too. X-tard is ableist and plain dumb. I wish we could actually read the post and comments, though, because it’s hard to tell what OP was really saying. Is he claiming that dissing on MLs is racist? Hard to say, but if he is that’s ridiculous
no, that dismissing all MLs as tankies has a tendency to erase the real liberatory movements of the global south. criticizing the politics is fine, but applying a hard line against tankies means excluding a vast swath of people who aren’t white and don’t speak English. he’s calling for left unity.
I can’t even parse this. I read your comment as saying that criticizing “tankies” (whatever that means these days) is not ok because some people, who are left but might not be Tankies, are not white and don’t speak English.
Your first sentence conflicts with your second. Dismissing all MLs as tankies, fair, that’s inappropriate because they aren’t.
But for those that ARE tankies, you absolutely should have a hard line against them. All genocide and dictatorship/oligarchy defenders are not welcome.
Is he claiming that dissing on MLs is racist? Hard to say, but if he is that’s ridiculous
That’s how I read it anyway. And while it’s not completely out there, I’ve seen these arguments show up a lot lately and definitely not always when it would have been a natural course for the conversation to take.
Apparently some people really like this particular talking point, and interaction be damned.
What I was thinking too. X-tard is ableist and plain dumb. I wish we could actually read the post and comments, though, because it’s hard to tell what OP was really saying. Is he claiming that dissing on MLs is racist? Hard to say, but if he is that’s ridiculous
no, that dismissing all MLs as tankies has a tendency to erase the real liberatory movements of the global south. criticizing the politics is fine, but applying a hard line against tankies means excluding a vast swath of people who aren’t white and don’t speak English. he’s calling for left unity.
I can’t even parse this. I read your comment as saying that criticizing “tankies” (whatever that means these days) is not ok because some people, who are left but might not be Tankies, are not white and don’t speak English.
That can’t be right.
Your first sentence conflicts with your second. Dismissing all MLs as tankies, fair, that’s inappropriate because they aren’t.
But for those that ARE tankies, you absolutely should have a hard line against them. All genocide and dictatorship/oligarchy defenders are not welcome.
That’s how I read it anyway. And while it’s not completely out there, I’ve seen these arguments show up a lot lately and definitely not always when it would have been a natural course for the conversation to take.
Apparently some people really like this particular talking point, and interaction be damned.
Often times it is. I say this because I have indigenous comrades that face that shit all the time.
I also included that one because the removal reason is using the same ableist language I pointed out in the first one.