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      I don’t watch my dad use the computer anymore as I feel the same as the one in the comic.

      That time I saw him log in to his yahoo email (tldr; my dad uses google to go to yahoo)

      1. Open Chrome (which I set google.com as the homepage)
      2. Type in yahoo.com to the search bar
      3. Click yahoo.com from the results
      4. Click on the Mail button thing somewhere in that page

      Or that one time I asked him to login to to gmail account while he was browsing his yahoo email. (tldr; my dad does not believe in tabs)

      1. Close his Chrome browser with the yahoo email.
      2. Open Chrome again
      3. Type in gmail in the google search bar
      4. Click mail.google.com from the results.
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        Oh… Oh No. Closing the entire browser to open a new tab. I don’t blame you at all for not being able to watch.

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        I read the TL;DRs knowing what was going to happen only to continue reading and feel physical pain. What’s wrong with me…

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        There was a recurring gag on Parks And Rec about Pawnee internet users needing Altavista so they could use it to navigate to Google. That joke felt very real.

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        I can understand parents. My mom was an office admin before computers and she could type 130+ wpm on a typewriter, but she struggles with things like this. Bless her, I’m happy to help her whenever she needs. My dad was a DOS beast in his day but he can’t help himself from adding sketchy browser extensions.

        Now, when I run into peer “engineers” that use computers like this… That I cannot forgive

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      My Dad has had a post-it note above his computer for years, “Crl-C Copy, Crl-V Paste”

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    I have a coworker whose default mode of thinking is to manually type everything. He knows about things like tab completion and copy-paste, but for some reason those two things just aren’t baked into his brain as a natural reflex like it is for most people. Like if he has to put a URL or database connection string in a config file somewhere, he’ll start manually typing the string one character at a time, and will keep alt-tabbing between the config file he’s editing and the email or whatever that has the reference string.

    It drives me up a wall.

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      I did a short stint as a video editor at a local news channel. Had one colleague who made it a point to lean back and touch the keyboard as little as humanly possible, and use the mouse for everything. It was excruciating to watch him work. He was fairly experienced btw, so I’m sure he could have done the work much quicker, he just chose not to.

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    The millennials are in the absolute worst position tech literacy wise. They had the boomers on one end and the zoomers on the other.

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      Makes me glad I’m a millennial and had to deal with the times when technology wasn’t so “nice” to you. When Windows would let you delete system32 with less hoops, random websites could drive-by malware into your machine, and you could tangibly customize your OS to look completely different.

      Late 90s/early 00s computing really gave opportunities to get good at understanding what your computer did, scrutinize when downloading random programs, and made you think about what you were clicking on a little bit if you didn’t want to get a virus.

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      My niece struggled with using a mouse when she was in middle school – her experience with UI was exclusively touch screens prior to that.

      The verge had an interesting article on this phenomenon

      I’ll add “it’s not their fault”. In the race to make technology intuitive and idiot proof we’ve removed the need to actually learn how technology works past a superficial level.

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        Very interesting! It’s something I just cannot fathom as a 20-something year old. Granted, I’m a software engineer, but I’m very much like the professors in the article. It’s just so intuitive to me.

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        Yup the first person i thought of when seeing this meme is my apprentice, he is 19 and has only ever had an iPhone and cheap Chromebook. Even at school and everyone he knows is the same. We work in controls and all the technician side programs are all interfaces straight out of the 90s, I let him use my laptop the one day and he can barely use the menus, cant use any office program, had no idea what an IP address is and if the default com port doesn’t work there is no way he was going to end up at the device manager page. Not that most people wouldn’t have a bit of a learning curve.

        Its the “apps” and web-apps its just one more layer of abstraction to turn your computer from a tool into an appliance.

        He’ll be fine eventually, he’s going to buy himself a real laptop and start playing with it he said and there’s the internet to learn anything he could need eventually. (Well not always where we work but hell manage). But I’d have almost the same difficulty teaching a young man who’d never seen a computer before as I would him.

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        It’s like how the generations before us knew how to fix cars better than more millennials. They learned because they had to, because their cars needed more maintenance than modern cars. Meanwhile, millennials had computers that needed more maintenance than modern computers, so that’s what we learned.

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        Mouse? OG experts fumble with the touchpad and touchpad buttons to drag the scrollbar down inch by inch.

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          OG experts

          And all the poor bastards with that wireless Apple mouse that charges via USB on the goddamn bottom of the device so it can’t be used while it’s plugged in. 🤦‍♂️

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        Fool—the scroll wheel is a scalpel; the scrollbar is a broadsword. Use the right tool for the job.

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        I’ve seen someone briefly turn on caps lock to type a single capital letter, I wanted to scream

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          Former “IT” coworker would do that too. He apparently didn’t know how to type characters on tge number row, you know like & for example.

          I called him out on him using caps lock instead of shift and he asked “what do yoy do, hold shift?” with a tone that implied I was the crazy one.

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            I switched from Mac to PC a couple years ago, and learning to use the Windows key for those slightly-obscure special character shortcuts (e.g. em-dash, accents) took some angry rewiring of muscle memory.

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          When I first started to learn touch typing I used some popular documents. It recommended to do that, especially for people with smaller hands. I eventually moved on from it, but I only use left shift since I can’t reach right shift in any sane manner without moving my whole hand.

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    We found out that one of our co workers created tables of formulas in excel, then input a table in Word to manually type in and transfer over the table data. And of course the same formulas needed to be run through a desk calculator once more in case excel got that wrong the first time. Jaw dropping (when that person was shown about this magical copy/ paste feature, it was their jaw that dropped lol)

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        One of the few moments I remember so clearly where it truly felt like time had stopped. Rest of the dept just froze, as I’m sure they were running through all of this person’s work and designated accounts in their heads just as I was. They ended up leaving shortly after, and guess who had to clean up all that fun stuff. The manually-input nightmare 😭

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    Older scrum masters during the daily standup and trying to do live updates to the JIRA board

    Turned 15 minute meeting into 30 minutes at times lol.

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      I let my stand-in scrummy drive the TFS board this morning. In adding a PBI to the sprint he typed the iteration manually (a pretty long path name), rather than clicking the context menu and selecting “current iteration”

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    This is what training new folks looks like. Even something as simple as a browser; watching someone click into the address bar and hit enter just to refresh the page, hurts my soul.