• SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    How can you be non-violent and not peaceful at the same time…? lmfao. They mean the exact same thing.

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      9 months ago

      Hmm I see what the dictionaries are saying but (using an example from above) I think argument exists that:

      If me and my fellow protestors block a road, we are being non-violent, but we are not being peaceful.

      But it’s Friday and no time for argument!

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          9 months ago

          Peaceful: freedom from disturbance; tranquility.

          It is a disturbance to the system, and it isn’t tranquil. They are not synonyms. Non-violent means you aren’t hurting anyone, peaceful means you aren’t disturbing anything. You can’t be violent and peaceful but you can be non-violent and non-peaceful. Peace is sufficient but not necessary for non-violence.

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            9 months ago

            Literally the next definition after that one….

            not involving war or violence.

            SYNONYMS…

            Peaceful literally means non-violent…. Literally defines the bloody term lmfao.

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              9 months ago

              One definition of peaceful is synonymous, and one isn’t. This is exactly why language has so many synonyms, each one is sliiiightly different. Choosing one intentionally instead of another is important.

              In this instance, “peace” is being defined (not directly, but through context) as status quo, going about your day unhindered. “Violence” is being defined as causing direct physical harm to a person, and possibly property depending on who you ask.

              With these definitions laid out, it’s easy enough to see a situation that is not violent (no one got hurt at all) and also not peaceful (some people’s days were interrupted) - one person mentioned blocking a road. This is a FANTASTIC example of non-peaceful non-violent protest. No one likes a pedant.

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                9 months ago

                No one likes a pedant.

                Goes on a bloviated pedantic rant…

                Yep, just like the people trying to say blocking a road isn’t peaceful. They are trying to pedantically choose a definition to make a point. Blocking a road is absolutely peaceful, trying to explain it any other way would be to be pendantic. Lmfao.

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          9 months ago

          I see a lot of other people have responded with examples and argument.

          So I’ll disagree and say the argument falls apart when I don’t argue. (Cause it’s Friday. You ain’t got no job. You ain’t got shit to do. I’m gonna get you high today.)