Oh, it gets worse.
Don’t look up what blessing Gruumsh’s wife gave to the orcs.
Could not really find anything but that Luthic is a fertility goddess of sorts. Which seems rather normal.
Tried looking that up but can’t really find anything, what is the controversy there?
I guess you do need some background information, especially because Wizards sure doesn’t like spelling it out anymore.
In older editions it was assumed nearly all half-orcs were the offspring of rape, and “the blessing of Luthic” was given to make orcs fertile with nearly every other race.
The implications were clear, even more once you start diving into things like orcish society being a rigid patriarchy with a slave economy and one of Luthic’s domains being not just servitude, but specifically female servitude.
In early DnD’s defense, monster races were objectively, comically evil, and players were pretty heavily incentivised to pick humans (and assumed to be played by extremely nerdy guys), so it wasn’t supposed to come up that much.
The fantasy was in killing the cannibal rape monsters, freeing their slaves, and not having to ask yourself “Are we the baddies doing an imperialism?” for burning down the orc village.
My dad used to play red box D&D (which I believe was the first edition ever released). Still has some manuals, which I got the chance to read.
Not only it was encouraged to play humans, it was assumed! You didn’t get to pick a race, only a class. And while the classes of “elf” (think like 5e’s ranger) and “dwarf” (5e’s barbarian, sort of) were a thing, all of the other classes assumed for the player to be a human. You couldn’t play an elf wizard: you either are an elf OR a wizard. Wild stuff, compared to some of the crazy stuff we get to do in modern D&D.
If your first-level halfling is wearing plate mail, you may be playing Red Box D&D.
Like these?
So, like DCC?
Late reply, but original D&D and Holmes-book D&D came before Red Box. Not sure about OD&D, but Holmes had race-class separation. AD&D has roughly contemporaneous with red box, and had the concept of Elf Wizard.
Red box D&D (both its editions) was pretty different in a lot of ways than other editions.
Early DND sounds a lot like pulp comics.
so, the evil version of big booba goblins?
Is that a thing?
you’re asking if horny people had the idea to give massive honkers to the small green people and make their whole schtick to bonk everyone they see?
if that’s a question that needs to be asked you should treasure your innocence
I can’t seem to find the reference, but I think an echo of this made it into 5e, where the offspring of orcs and other races were always half-orcs.
If you ditch the orgasm bit it’s kinda like sharks? Like it’d just be edgy instead of some weird vore-fetish thing
if you ditch the orgasm bit it’s kind of like sharks?
This part, and this part alone, is my new guiding principal in life.
Yes friend, everyone knows the female orgasm is fake
Including the question mark.
Once I accepted that I am cringe, I was free to be my true self. I am cringe, but I am free.
Umm, what? Anything that has gestation similar to a human is probably incapable of this. Could you imagine these fucking alien beans duckin’ and dodgin’ in utero to slaughter each other with nubby hands and fingers? Lmao this is some Morrowind concept art shit
More like The Binding of Isaac. Only game in which aborting yourself can result in a positive outcome.
My favourite bit on drow related lore is from 2E. Non-drow followers of Eilistraee would do black face and travel the world as part of an effort to show drow could be peaceful. There is something hilarious to me about how well intentioned the author seems to be but completely oblivious to what it looks like.
Oh so Señor Chang in the D&D episode of Community.
Lolth is an edgelord that makes all the other gods cringe.
Never forget what they took from you
Wait, is this real? Surely this is parody, right?
There are a number of really weird things with old D&D lore.
“Wouldn’t it be cool if…”
“Some incredibly unhinged shit…”
No this was the lore.
Hell one of 3.5 edition’s strongest monsters, from the the published books, was the undead, aborted, fetus, that was the product of the rape of another god, or celestial/hell/abyssal creature, by a god of opposing alignment, like an angel raped by an evil god.
They were just keeping with the strong tradition established by the Greeks and Romans of gods that rape everyone and everything.
Not really sure what the hubub is. It’s lore for a dark thing in a fantasy world. It’s like an unpopular opinion on c/unpopularopinion . You don’t like it, persay, but it’s effective content.
Folks could get away with so much edgy bulshit back then…
Sad how hard it is now.
Nah, it’s good that it’s hard. People who want to use with heavy themes, they gotta earn it.
