• Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    So, we’ve already given them all the means and any call for action is “shutting down crucial military systems” aka leaving them vulnerable in a hostile region?

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      9 months ago

      “If you dont stop the genocide then we will stop arming your soldiers” sounds reasonable to me.

      If Israel is left vulnerable in a hostile region, it will be because of their own actions.

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          9 months ago

          And not all Gazans are Hamas, but the death toll is over 30k and people are starting to starve to death.

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              9 months ago

              Did German citizens in the 1940s deserve what was coming to them?

              Perhaps not, or at least certainly not all of them. And yet Hitler was lawfully elected, which means many of them voted for him. Netanyahu and Likud were also lawfully elected.

              The question is, what responsibility do voters in a democracy hold for the actions of their democratically elected government? If fair and lawful elections are held, and the voters elect a government that enacts genocide, are those voters liable? Historically the answer to that question has been no. But is that the correct answer? If so, then should American Trump voters also be held liable for his national crimes? What about voters for George W. Bush?

              Perhaps greater responsibility would cause the world’s voters to be more selective in whom they support.

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                9 months ago

                I don’t know man, the situation in Isreal is part of the fallout of hitlers actions. Seems like that should factor in. The mistake people are making is that there is only an illusion of choice and a vote for a president actually factors in very little in the grand scheme. A president does have some limited power but they are enabled by their party. If we look at the parties who’ve done the most damage I would tip the scale one way, every time.

                To answer your question should people be responsible for the illusion of choice of a president? Fuck no.

                Should they use their vote to resist the spread of white supremecy and authoritianism, yes.

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                  Should they use their vote to resist the spread of white supremecy and authoritianism, yes.

                  Then Israel needs to be opposed, as do all ethnostates and genocidal regimes