• MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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    8 months ago

    “Money isn’t a birthright” says political faction in favor of tax-free inheritance for its filthy rich members. More at 11:00.

    EDIT: weird mobile correction typo

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        9 months ago

        Could you do what they did? No, I didn’t think so!

        It’s not easy being born to the right family, if it was easy everyone would do it and it wouldn’t pay so well! Duhhhhhh

        :P

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    9 months ago

    UBI is the perfect capitalist solution to the majority of problems. It should allow for less market distortion and could have some really interesting outcomes.

    I’m very excited to see a first world country use UBI.

    That an externalities can go a long, long way in this world.

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      Capitalism depends on the threat of homelessness to function. UBI can definitely ameliorate the problems of capitalism, but capitalists will constantly fight it. UBI is also a great idea within socialist economies, where there would be no force against it. We should be doing both - eliminate capitalism and provide UBI.

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        Capitalism depends on the threat of homelessness to function.

        No it doesn’t

        UBI is also a great idea within socialist economies, where there would be no force against it.

        Maybe. But socialism is a stupid inefficient system, so it’s a non starter.

        UBI works very well with the market based capitalist system. That’s where I think it will shine.

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          Did you know that the US does not have a capitalist system? In fact, it’s silly to think of “capitalism” and “socialism” as systems at all. They aren’t. They are broad systemic feature sets. You’ve probably heard the phrase “mixed economy”. That’s actually what nearly every nation has, a mixed economy, meaning that we have socialist, as well as capitalist, elements. In fact, without socialist elements, the capitalist elements of our economy would have self-destructed a long time ago. You clearly have no idea what capitalism or socialism even are. That’s fine, most people don’t, it’s pretty much the norm, but now that it’s been pointed out to you, you have a choice: learn, and grow, or be a stubborn fool. Hopefully you choose well.

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            Haha I have a degree in economics. That why I can see all the shit you tankies write as just plain wrong.

            But I’m sure your youtube video on Karl Marx makes you an expert on these things.

            People don’t use words as absolutes. America is largely referred to as a capitalist country. My saying that isn’t incorrect. But you can argue technicalities of words all you want, communism sucks or (mixed economies heavily leaning to communism sucks).

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    9 months ago

    ‘Is money a birthright now?’

    Only for some. Or are we outlawing inheritances as well?

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      Basic Income as an obligation on the public sector would mean a smaller pool of residents with heavy obligation to private church groups and religious charities that recruit out of low income communities.

      Nobody’s going to come to the Sermon On The Mount if you can get your loaves and fishes anywhere.

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        and did Jesus decree, be strategic with when ye help those in need, so that they turn to private churches. No I don’t think that’s in there.

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          On the contrary, I think he said something about wherever two or three of his faithful gather in his name, so there is his church.

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    Iowa has been dealing with automation and outsourcing problems for a long time. I’m surprised that the farming families aren’t asking for UBI. Considering how farming subsidies have been in place for decades it wouldn’t even be a big stretch.

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      You might want to look up how many tax subsidies and federal programs the farmers are protected by. They don’t want anyone else to get a piece of that pie.

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    UBI will ultimately end up in the pockets of landlords, shareholders and offshore wealth funds anyway. Sort out the inequality first, then do it.

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      I do agree with this, without restriction on increases that x increase will just go into basic living services, you saw that with the stimulus checks as well. but part of me wants them to do it then go after everyoje that raised for gorging but I don’t think there is actual prevention of that

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    Survival is a birthright you absolute fucking vultures. We made money a requirement for that.

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      And it’s not like you can screw off into the forest to live a self-sufficient life either, because I’m pretty sure that’s illegal in most places in the world. If the forest isn’t already devoid of resources due to human activity that is.

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    How else are you supposed to stabilize a highly-developed postindustrial economy with increasingly rare opportunities to get ahead for most of the population? Didn’t you people read your Friedrich Hayek?

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    9 months ago

    we could have been living in a utopia 20 years ago or further back even but one thing stands in the way - conservatives. the solution is simple.

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        and what’s standing in the way of dismantling it? conservatives. you give me a problem and i’ll show you how simple solutions are being blocked by conservatives. get rid of conservatives, fix the problem.

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          Depends on how you define conservatives? If you categorize the entire US political spectrum as conservatives (and economically, they are), then sure. In the prevalent usage of the term, that’s not true, because liberals are just as much a barrier because they are capitalists. The entire US political spectrum is ideologically liberal save for a few fascists on the right, and both are capitalist ideologies.

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            all of America is Liberal (socio-economic philosophy, not the “left” catchall) and thus they are all conservative

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              “ackshually”… please stop being a nerd. the problem and solution is simple. don’t over complicate it. people know wtf i’m talking about when i say conservative.

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                There is a neat and simple solution for every problem, and it’s always wrong

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                  until that solution is the only thing between utopia and dystopia, where the effects of either will be felt for centuries to come. that solution then becomes a necessity. wake up.

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      You could blame Nader and the 100k Florida Progressives who couldn’t hold their noses and punch the chad for Gore for that. And then remember it in November.

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        i could, maybe, but i’d rather blame jeb bush, the supreme court, and all the conservatives that voted for bush.

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    9 months ago

    I’m a Lifelong Republican and I LOVE how the Republican Party is a CHAMPION for the Working Class! Money is NOT a Birthright unless you’re already super rich and then it’s OK to suck at the Government’s Teat!