Even after living in Oregon, off and on, for 30 years, I still tend to drive through a few towns there without looking right or left. One of these is Grants Pass, which has, as the Oregon Encyclopedia delicately puts it,
a troubled social history, with outbreaks of religious intolerance and white supremacist activity. The Ku Klux Klan was active throughout Oregon in the 1920s, with an estimated Grants Pass membership in the hundreds. The Klan had a short-lived resurgence in Grants Pass in the 1980s and 1990s, and the area was targeted for an Aryan Nations’ organizing drive, canceled after an anti-racism protest in the city drew 1,500 marchers in 1995. Militia activity spilled over into Grants Pass as well, most recently involving demonstrations by the Oath Keepers group.
Whatever its image may be, the city in 2024 bids fair to become the nationwide face of non-hospitality. Today, it will come before the Supreme Court to defend an “anti-camping” law designed (in the words of one of its sponsors) “to make it uncomfortable enough for [homeless people] in our city so they will want to move on down the road.”
If discomfort was their aim, the “anti-camping” ordinances’ authors achieved it. It is currently unlawful in Grants Pass to be anywhere in public with “bedding, sleeping bag, or other material used for bedding.” “Campers” don’t need to erect tents or shelters; merely holding a blanket violates the law. There can be no sleeping in public parks or other public property, and cars cannot be parked for more than two hours in public parks after midnight. No one can sleep in “any pedestrian or vehicular entrance to public or private property abutting a public sidewalk.” Anyone found “camping” or sleeping can be “immediately removed” from the premises and subject to a fine of $75 (for merely sleeping) or $295 (for “camping”). These fines are bolstered by hefty “collection fees” if not paid promptly. Though the fines are “civil,” a homeless person with two unpaid fines may be subject to an “exclusion order”—and may be fined and jailed for violating that order.
Homeless people in Grants Pass might try to find somewhere to shelter legally on a chilly night, but that quest is problematic. The city doesn’t maintain public shelters; it has a “sobering center” where intoxicated people can sober up, a temporary shelter for homeless youths, and a “warming center” that operates only on nights that fall below freezing (and doesn’t feature beds). Meanwhile, a church-supported “Gospel Rescue Mission” allows homeless individuals to stay—if they agree to work six days a week at shelter-assigned jobs, not to seek other employment while staying there, and not to smoke, drink, or engage in “intimate relationships.” Women may stay at the Mission with their children; men may not bring their children with them. Residents must also attend Christian services twice each weekday and once on Sunday.
It’s wild to me how these “God fearing Christians” basically want to put poor people into concentration camps, because that’s just like Jesus would do. /s
Maybe if we had more public housing, better healthcare, that includes mental and dental, and easier and cheaper access to higher education and more affordable housing while being educated, it’s not rocket science, sure we’ll have people who choose the nomadic life but most of these homeless people have been pushed out of society by debt or by their health issues and the addictions that come from those health issues and poverty.
It’s wild to me how these “God fearing Christians” basically want to put poor people into concentration camps, because that’s just like Jesus would do. /s
Well, you see, bad things like poverty only happen to amoral people who aren’t God fearing so if they’re poor then they’re bad people and they deserve mistreatment.
That’s the mental calculus happening here, it’s also the idea behind the fervent worship of wealth. Clearly wealthy people are exceptional in some way, they wouldn’t be wealthy if God disapproved of them.
These ideas are extremely common in rural America.
Well, you see, bad things like poverty only happen to amoral people who aren’t God fearing so if they’re poor then they’re bad people and they deserve mistreatment.
Exactly, this is the type of garbage the “prosperity gospel” preaches to these people, and it’s disgusting and tries to elevate these people over others based on their stations in life, something that usually cannot be helped. The prosperity gospel is essentially class warfare distilled into religious brainwashing.
Which is completely against any teaching Jesus ever gave. The man was fucken murdered the next week after stating you can’t be wealthy and make it into heaven, so give away your wealth. They killed him for it. That’s how long we have been fighting this bullshit with the rich and affluent.
“Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James 5%3A1-6&version=NIV
Republicans are in favor of programs that will get results, not programs that create government dependency. You say “we need more access to this and that…” and that’s where the problems is. You want the tax payers to front millions for other people, and hope it works, while screwing us that have actually worked hard to have a normal life.
First I like how you are trying to shade people about not being able to work hard, I’ve known homeless folks who work their asses off but can’t get ahead, can’t get approved for a place to live. Also they can’t get hired because of their mental illness, which Reagan helped put millions of those folks out on the streets, raising crime rates, so how’s that for results? Then you have the millions of hard working addicts living life on pain killers because our healthcare is f’n joke, how’s that for results when the rest of the world has universal healthcare? Education system is completely unaffordable so you have people going homeless over their broken college dreams and/or their crushing student debt, yet hey the answer to education is voucher programs and only rich kids get to go to college, how’s that for results?
Secondly how about we tax the rich? That’s where I expect the money to come from, we used to have a 50% tax on the wealthy, and it helped create our education system, library system, highway system, yet again Republicans constantly want to lower taxes on literal billionaires, eventually trillionaires, because when the fuck do you have enough money? Bernie Sanders said billionaires shouldn’t exist, they should be able to get to $999,999,999.99 and get a plaque that says they win capitalism, ans I whole heartedly agree with that statement. Oh and it gets even worse for your beloved Republicans where Trump’s tax plan that he put in place during his administration financed giving the wealthy their tax cuts, by increasing taxes on the lower and middle classes for the next four years, we are currently in year four, how about that for results bud?
I’ve worked hard since I was twelve years old, ran a whole kitchen including dish duty at thirteen, I served this country as Marine, and I am currently upper middle class, yet I don’t begrudge these people help, because I’m not a selfish fuckhead, but also the way I see it is we can provide healthcare, food, housing to our military, we should be able to do the same for those that we are supposed to be protecting, and do protect, especially during natural disasters.
You my friend and all of your selfish libertarian/Republican dipshits can go fuck yourselves, and doubly so if you’re a MAGA cultist.
if it is aginst the law to live with out a home, then the government would be sure to guaranty all have access to housing.
Spotted the liberal.
I am not a lib, they lean to far to the right for me. I am the pinko your tv warns you about. If you make laws then you need to have a path to make sure just by being poor you are not in violation of these laws.
Homelessness is a choice. A choice the government and its enablers have made. Some countries have found their way to a solution, so this is a solved problem. we collectively choose to not solve it.
The Bell Riots - September 2024
Peru just made an exception for a woman to end her life with dignity via euthanasia.
…5 years later in the US…new law to allow homeless people to end their life with dignity via euthanasia.
…20 years later… euthanasia patients can now be reborn vie DNA reconstruction by large corporations in order for the person to finish school loan payments and to pay taxes.
Time to fill the factories since SOME PEOPLE (Demonrats) don’t like our plan for child labor.
-someone, definitely
Ask Dred Scott.
Something has to be done. It’s getting out of control. And democrats still blame what Regan did 50 YEARS AGO. It’s getting ridiculous. I’m in California, and everywhere I travel there’s problems. Recently, a homeless man all drugged out came into a store I was at and bit a worker on the arm.
There’s only so many times you can step on a human turd in the middle of the sidewalk downtown before you agree with Grant’s Pass.
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How many homeless people are you inviting to live in your home bro?
Human turd on sidewalk (homelessness) is a symptom of a larger problem, making poor people illegal will make the problem worse.
so, if I lose my job and my house, I should go to jail…?
No, if you’re roaming the streets on drugs, you should go to jail.
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First they came for the Homeless. And I did not speak out Because I was not a Homeless . Then they came for the Sick . And I did not speak out Because I was not a Sick. Then they came for the Mentally Ill. And I did not speak out Because I was not a Mentally Ill. Then they came for the Trans. And I did not speak out Because I was not a Trans. Then they came for me. And there was no one left To speak out for me.
Typical liberal/Democrat reply. “Let’s just keep complaining, and offer NO answers!” Forced intervention is the only way to get those off the streets that don’t want to go, and don’t want to get off drugs. Sorry, but the days of “let’s just try and help them by giving them space!” are over.
Here’s a solution, tax the rich.
Can’t you watch where you step?
AGREED! We should do absolutely NOTHING about the Mental Health aspect that causes things like Turds on Sidewalks and Mass School Shootings and instead put your Neighbors in PRISON for the Crime of EXISTING!
Here we go… do you REALLY think those people roaming around are just going to voluntarily commit themselves to a mental health facility? Most of them are on drugs, they want ZERO help. Forced intervention is the only way to get them off the streets. But, liberals/Democrats will disagree with that and we’ll just keep going in circles, and NOTHING gets done.
Maybe the carrot is better than the stick. Maybe honey is better than vinegar.
Shitting on the sidewalk should be illegal. I don’t think sleeping should be illegal… What are homeless people supposed to do, never go to sleep? That’s literally impossible
And this is why nothing is getting done in California. Liberals/Democrats want the homeless to be able to sleep/live anywhere they…who cares? Meanwhile, a homeless lady literally just overdosed and died in front of a Walgreen’s where I live. But yet, those poor homeless!
I don’t think they should overdose and die either. I support trying to prevent that from happening.
And I wouldn’t say homeless people should necessarily be able to sleep ANYWHERE, but they should be allowed to sleep somewhere.
If they aren’t allowed to sleep in public, what are they supposed to do, trespass and sleep on someone’s private property? That seems worse to me.
