• bamboo@lemm.ee
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    “The United States voted against the resolution, along with Israel, Argentina, Czechia, Hungary, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and Papua New Guinea.”

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        Palau is basically a U.S. vassal state.

        Having voted in a referendum against joining the Federated States of Micronesia in 1978,[11][12] the islands gained full sovereignty in 1994 under a Compact of Free Association with the United States.

        Politically, Palau is a presidential republic in free association with the United States, which provides defense, funding, and access to social services.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palau

        Remember that when someone claims America isn’t an empire.

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            You say that as if that’s all America is. America controls a vast amount of land. It’s the third largest country in the world and, unlike the first two largest (Russia and Canada), most of that land is also usable for either farming or resource extraction. But that’s not the only reason it’s an empire. It’s also an empire because it has a large military presence in multiple countries who rely on it to supply defense at least in part. But another reason it’s an empire is that it has vassal states. It doesn’t matter how small those states are. Especially not when they are in strategic Pacific locations.

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              I’m not denying the imperialism of the US, I’m just saying that a group of islands with a total population 1/10th the size of my city isn’t really the chief problem, and kinda comes off as anti-American for anti-American sake. There are myriad other problems, and a couple of islands that gave us some strategy in the Pacific are hardly the East India Trading Company.

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                It also has a method of governance were politicians harp on and on (and on, AND ON) about having wonderful human rights whilst having the largest fraction of the population emprisioned in the World, regular murders by police, commonly deploying violence against demonstrators, having a voting system that enforces a power duopoly, regularly disenfranchise minorities and were citizens do not have rights to health, food or a place to live, which is not a popular export.

                FIFY

                • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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                  When we reach for our democratic ideals we are at our best.

                  Meanwhile back in the middle east, authoritarian religious police stone you to death for saying things like you’re saying about their government. Grow up. You obviously have it very good.

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                    Oh, yeah, the deluded nationalists amongst you guys really talk the talk like pros, shame about not walking the walk. “Reach for our democratic ideals” indeed … sounds lofty and all but strangelly enough it immediatly fails on the hurdle of actually having a genuine selection of political parties to vote for. Beautiful political poetry to make up for quite a different reality - it’s called “Compensation” in Psychology.

                    As for the second paragraph, that “Look at those other guys in the Middle East” whataboutism is quite a low standard to compare one’s nation against and thus an implicit acceptance of mediocrity, and even those “other guys in the Middle East” manage to have less people in prison than the US. Maybe it’s something in the water.

                    Next to the rest of the Developed World the US is only an example of Human Rights or of Humanism in any form in the sense of something to avoid not something to emulate. But yeah, you guys sure beat dictatorial shitholes … well maybe not on the size of the prison population and their use as forced labour and on police shootings…

                    And yeah, I do have it very good compared to that shit over there, and had it very good in all other countries in Europe I lived in - in Europe you have to go so far to East that you reach Russia to get a colder and more inhumane system than the one to the West of us across the Atlantic.

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                    The US is directly responsible for the mess in Iraq and the Iranian revolution.