• prole@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    I’m not a liberal. Learn what words mean. You’re confidently arguing about things you are clearly ignorant of

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      I’m not a liberal.

      Good thing you told me - otherwise I might have been fooled by your liberal blathering, eh?

      Read real careful-like, (supposed) “non-liberal” - you cannot - I repeat cannot - move the Overton window left by voting for right-wingers.

      That shouldn’t be too hard for a “non-liberal” to understand, should it?

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        You’re brain has been so broken by the bullshit “liberal/conservative” dichotomy fed to you by cable news that you don’t even know what words mean.

        Liberals are center right conservatives. Calling a progressive a liberal is an insult.

        I seriously implore you to try to inform yourself as to what these words mean. Calling someone who is borderline socialist a “liberal” immediately betrays your ignorance about politics.

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          You’re brain has been so broken

          Really? I’m not the one here pretending that calling yourself “progressive” actually makes you a leftist, lib.

          That’s you - not me.

          Calling a progressive a liberal is an insult.

          Good… I’d hate to know that my insults missed.

          Calling someone who is borderline socialist

          “Borderline socialist” isn’t socialist, genius - it still means your politics are thoroughly ensconced in the reformist category. And like all people who ascribe to reformist politics, you will enthusiastically join with reactionaries as soon as the radicals start threatening your precious status quo. It’s the only thing one can expect from liberals, after all - even the ones pretending to be edgier than the run-of-the-mill types.

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              You seem mad.

              I’m not the one getting upset at being called a liberal, liberal.

              That’s you, remember?

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                edit: forgot to answer your question: no, I don’t remember getting mad or upset. The only angry person in this thread is you, and I think most people are confused by your unprovoked aggression.

                I hope everything is ok, bud. It seems like you’re having a real tough time. I truly mean that. Your worldview seems to be causing you great distress and I can’t imagine how exhausting that must be.

                I don’t get “upset” by ignorant strangers on the internet. If anything, I just feel sorry for you.

                Growing up in an extremely conservative, Evangelical, Fox News household, so I know the exact intentions of ending that sentence with “liberal.” Like it’s a curse word, and like anyone outside your sad little bubble is going to care (plus, as we’ve established, you don’t even know what the word means).

                Spoiler: they don’t.

                In fact, given your tenuous grasp of these terms, and what you think “liberal” means… Your attempted insult becomes more of a compliment. So thanks!

                It’s like those people who try to use some variant of “hurr durr you live in your mom’s basement” on grown-ass adults who have lived alone for at least a decade… It just doesn’t work lol.

                It’s also a pretty big self-report. You don’t need a poly-sci degree to learn this stuff.

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                  no, I don’t remember getting mad or upset.

                  This you?

                  Calling a progressive a liberal is an insult.

                  I could swear that was you.

                  I hope everything is ok, bud.

                  Your concern trolling is touching.

                  plus, as we’ve established, you don’t even know what the word means

                  Really? I’m the one that doesn’t know what the term liberalism means? I’m the one that doesn’t understand how liberal ideology has been foisted on the world ever since it’s inception in the (so-called) “Enlightenment”? I’m the one pretending that calling yourself “conservative” (somehow) makes you *non-*liberal?

                  Newsflash, genius - it’s all liberalism. You exist inside a liberal world order - concepts such as fascism and capitalism are features of it.

                  Your attempted insult becomes more of a compliment. So thanks!

                  Colonialism and capitalism flatters you? Yeah… that tracks.

                  You don’t need a poly-sci degree to learn this stuff.

                  So you have no excuse not to start, eh?

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                    Yeah, pointing out something can be insulting does not mean I’m insulted, or angry or upset or… Like I know you’re trying real hard to get that reaction from me, but like I said before I honestly just feel bad for you.

                    It’s not only sad, but very very weird. Why don’t you step back for a moment and see how this comment exchange began… What kind of depressing life leads a person to behave the way that you did (and still do).

                    You are clearly very angry, and it’s sad to see that anger so misdirected… Like you don’t even have a grasp on the absolute basics of political classifications, yet you’re so damned mad at some boogeymen you invented to fit into these fabricated classifications.

                    I hope you get some help, not only with the misguided anger, but also with your inability to define or understand basic political terms. Especially if you’re going to be so outspokenly vitriolic towards strangers about them.

                    It’s a really bad look.

                    Edit:

                    I expect nothing more than the same shit, so don’t expect me to reply (or honestly, even read) your response to this.

                    I hope you can get some help, and maybe part of that will be realizing when you’re wrong and learning not to double down on stupid.

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        you cannot - I repeat cannot - move the Overton window left by voting for right-wingers.

        Yes you can. You can lower the temperature of something by pouring over it something hot, but less hot than what you’re trying to cool down.

        In the same way, voting for a right-winger over a far right-winger will shift the Overton window to the left. Because left and right are relative terms, like the other guy was trying to say.

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          You can lower the temperature of something by pouring over it something hot,

          ROFLMAO!

          If that was true, liberal, you wouldn’t be in this pickle, would you? How long have you libs been voting for the “lesser evil” now?

          The only thing you get when you pour liberalism over fascism is fascism that burns harder. In fact, you don’t get fascism without liberalism providing it with fuel and fertilizer.

          But hey… go ahead. Try and solve this problem with “more of the same.” Maybe “thoughts and prayers” will start magically working, too.

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            If that was true, liberal, you wouldn’t be in this pickle, would you? How long have you libs been voting for the “lesser evil” now?

            Remind me the last time the US had three consecutive Democratic terms? 80 years ago? Not sure why you’re saying something isn’t working when it hasn’t even happened.

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              Remind me the last time the US had three consecutive Democratic terms?

              Is that the miracle you are waiting for, lib?

              Careful there… you might end up making the MAGAs look less delusional in comparison to you if you carry on like this.