• RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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      From the link you posted:

      The offenders were tried and convicted in Japanese court by Japanese law, in accordance with the U.S.–Japan Status of Forces Agreement.

      So:

      • not legal
      • Criminals gonna crime
      • Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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        The US military protected heinous criminals in their ranks, and refused to hand them over for nearly an entire month. Consider the scale of the crime needed for Sweden to have any legal recourse here. Do you really think Ulf Kristersson is going to risk an international incident over some violent drunk soldier getting into a bar fight? No, that soldier will get arrested, flash his ID, and go home free.

        The NATO SOFA treaty is sufficient for giving soldiers access to military bases, and it’s what every other country in NATO has accepted. The US wants special privileges and exemption from Swedish law, and we just gave it to them.

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          The beauty here is that the courts are separate from the government. The government can not in any way shape or form. Influence the courts in who or what they prosecute.

          If they prosecuted a US soldier. There is nothing the Swedish government could do.

          There is no special exemption. A deal was made. It includes no get out of jail free card for soldiers who brake the law.

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      Military Service Members do not have diplomatic immunity nor are they exempt from host nation laws and ordinances.

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        This treaty exempts US soldiers from Swedish law, unless the case is of “special importance”, and the Swedish government explicitly requests the US to drop the exemption. Basically unless the soldier violently kills someone or worse, the Swedish police will have no authority. The legal grey area opened for violent crime is obvious.

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          It looks like it’s not a case of Sweden asking the US to drop the exemption, rather Sweden can simply decide that there is no exemption for that case and only have to tell the Americans that they are doing so.

          In specific cases of particular importance to Sweden, Swedish authorities may withdraw the waiver by providing a statement in writing to the competent U.S. forces authorities not later than thirty (30) days after receipt of the notification described in Paragraph 2 of this Article.

          Paragraph 2 says that America has a duty to notify Sweden about anything relevant

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      Just gonna point out that this treaty now makes this legal in sweden:

      Make what legal? Prosecuting rapists? Pretty sure they already have that in Sweden.

      • Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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        I’m pointing out the very real risk that exempting US soldiers from Swedish law has, and pointing out the international crises that the same policy has caused in Japan.

        You can’t just call everyone you disagree with a “trollbot”.