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    We need about a week to see what happens with polling. Anyone right now is just reading tea leaves. But uh … This is the worst debate performance I’ve seen since Palin. So I can see why party insiders are suddenly discussing things like an open convention in hushed voices.

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      Okay, but what I’m reading is that Biden sounded like a lost old man and Trump sounded like a crazy old man, which is what everyone already knew about both of them, so I’m not sure why anyone would change their minds.

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        Because we know from 2016 and 2020 that Trump’s craziness isn’t an impediment to him getting votes. We’re also in a bubble here on Lemmy. The CNN flash poll they conduct before/after the debate had a 12 point swing towards Trump.

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          Was that 12 points swinging towards Trump as the debate winner or was that people changing their vote? Because those are very different things. I would be surprised if it were the latter.

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            The debate winner. And yeah it’s different but also telling when Biden has won easily every other time.

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              I really don’t think that it’s telling at all. I have a very difficult time believing someone would suddenly consider a dictator over the possibility of Kamala Harris stepping in like they hadn’t already.

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                It’s worth remembering that our elections are generally very close. It doesn’t take a ton of people in a battle state to change their minds.

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                    That is also true. Another breakpoint coming up is Trump’s sentencing. Apparently focus groups report they’re less likely to vote for him if he gets a sentence including a jail or prison term.