• OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’m not sure exactly what they were trying to do on Jan 6, but the fact nobody had guns, there was no clear plan, and it didn’t even come close to working, makes it significantly less of a problem than straight up murder of the opposition and the entire government. Actually not sure why I’m even having this conversation. You have to be either insane or trolling me.

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      4 months ago

      the fact nobody had guns

      They did have guns.

      https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/apr/05/robert-f-kennedy-jr/rfk-jr-falsely-said-that-jan-6-protestors-carried/

      there was no clear plan

      Donald Trump called the election a fraud months before his loss, told his supporters to show up and force Pence to declare him president despite losing the election. His supporters showed up, erected a noose, demanded Pence be hanged, and came very close to killing him by Pence’s own testimony.

      it didn’t even come close to working

      Contrary to your beliefs that the thousands of right wing extremists that stormed the capitol were completely unarmed, plenty were heavily armed and came very close to being face to face with Democratic members of Congress. Things could have gone very differently that day if the insurrectionists had managed to go as far as they were willing to. We’re lucky that our representatives were able to get to safety before the mob arrived.

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        4 months ago

        Well I looked into it, and there were 4 confirmed people who brought guns. I’m certain there were others who were never discovered, but clearly violence was not a serious part of the plan to overthrow the government. I’m certain that some of the more extreme members were capable of violence and even murdering certain politicians, but that has always been true. It has also always been wrong and we should never act like it’s ok no matter who is attempting it.

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          4 months ago

          clearly violence was not a serious part of the plan to overthrow the government.

          This is the single most delusional string of words I’ve ever read.

          You go from claiming that there was no coherent plan, to saying that the plan is “clear” enough that we can rule out violence as a part of it.

          4 people fucking died in a coordinated attempt to storm the capitol where an armed mob assaulted and killed police officers, smashed through windows, pissed and shit in hallways and offices, and demanded that politicians be killed.

          And you’re saying that violence “clearly” wasn’t part of the plan?

          Is this some kind of bit where you pretend to be as stupid as possible, because I don’t get it.

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                4 months ago

                Well except there is a whole police force in the way, and they ALL have guns. The one person who possibly posed a danger to congress members was immediately shot dead when she tried to get close.