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Who the hell has a 1-hour standup every day
Me. I hate it so much.
Same. I have yet to see anyone implement a true 15 minute standup.
My seven person team completes a stand-up in less than 15 minutes twice a week. Does it provide value? Probably not. Is it fast? Yes.
I’d prefer quick no value to long no value.
Trust me, it provides value. For those of us with problems leaving everything to the last minute, having a little biweekly accountability and structure can really help prevent problems from getting too big.
My old job legitimately did 5 minute standups. A person saying they were struggling with something would often get interrupted by someone else volunteering to help them after standup. It was incredible. I miss it so much.
I’ve been on multiple teams that do and it’s so much better than the teams that don’t.
Ideal standup (cameras off):
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-2:00 - 0:00 mark: light chit chat if earlybirds want while waiting for standup to start
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15s-45s / per person: what did you work on yesterday, what are you working on today.
- An extra 45s if you have a blocker. The resolution during the meeting is always either:
- ‘blocked, nothing I can do, moving onto X ticket’,
- ‘someone tells me who to talk to to unblock’
- ‘me and a team member agree to meet after the standup to discuss how to unblock’
- An extra 45s if you have a blocker. The resolution during the meeting is always either:
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0-2min total for offboard updates: who has a doctor’s appointment, needs to take time off, happy anniversary, etc.
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I ran sub-ten-minute stand-ups for a while. If anyone ever went over one minute (LOOKING AT YOU, SOMNATH) I’d make a super annoying noise and cut them off.
I have 3/week and they rarely go above 10 🤷♂️ if we actually stayed on topic, it’d probably be closer to 5, but I don’t mind a little meandering
My last company was similar, but a bigger team and maybe 15-20min.
You gotta get out of there. They’re wasting your time by over managing you
I’d love to. I used to be a very good software engineer, and I think deep down I might still be, but this place has taken all the joy I had in work. I’m not sure how I can get another job at this point where I can barely stomach the one I have.
I feel that. I spend multiple hours a day staring at my screen thinking “this whole thing is a scam, right?”
I’m not sure if it’s possible for you, but I feel I’ve been in a similar predicament with a job I had. One day I just quit and took a few months off. IMO what was giving me that feeling was how weekends and evenings wasn’t enough for me to fully decompress.
Yeah that’s terrible. I have an hour of stand-ups but that’s 4 teams, I’m not an IC on any of them.
I used to, wanted to Keep Myself Safe every day.
Corpos are awful to work for
Yeah, 1 hour standup is an oxymoron
Our team had grown too big
Get in the Teams Meeting, Shinji.
When you have to attend the post-meeting meeting:
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Best schedule is: Clock in at 9:00 and plan/settle in until 10:00. Standup from 10:00 to 10:30 (and no later!). Solo code until 3:00 (lunch when you feel like it) and pair programming/testing from 3:15 to 5:00
I will be taking no questions
Give me back my waterfall and 5 hour uninterrupted days.
Managerialism and it’s consequences …
We really gotta do something about the corporate managerial class.
