But I suppose that in a country where “walkable neighborhoods” are construed to be some nefarious communist plot to rob people of their freedom, not walking its a status symbol.
Fair enough, although I’d argue getting around the neighborhood is easier on a narrow vehicle that can carry some cargo and doesn’t depend on batteries. A golf cart has all the downsides of a car in day to day use and it’s slower and exposed to the elements. It’s probably a Veblen good in this case.
My friends have one because they have a small baby and don’t want to use their scooters (small motorbikes) with her when going out. They don’t own a car. They can carry their shopping in it.
The US hasn’t really discovered Bakfiet bicycles yet.
Watching people take six kindergarten kids or a whole refrigerator on a bike through town in Berlin and Amsterdam was wonderful. They could do a pretty good Costco run on those things.
Yeah the why is laziness I guess? Why walk when you can drive a smaller electric buggy for small distances and a big car for big distances?
Golf carts make sense in retirement communities - presumably the companies behind them are “growing the market” by targeting families as an alternative to push chairs and walking? Also I’m guessing these are American neighbourhoods which still are designed around cars than true walkability?
They are popular in more affluent areas so they can be driven to clubhouses or other neighborhood spots, and unsurprisingly very common in neighborhoods that have their own golf course.
It’s quite common here to have one for driving around neighbourhoods, as cheap ones can be $1,000+.
So, where I come from, there’s nothing to drive to in the neighborhood except other houses. Also, a neighborhood is at most a square mile. That’s all I envisioned.
What, exactly, did you even mean by “neighborhoods”? It’s starting to sound like you’re talking about driving several miles.
It can be several miles since my friend’s one goes for 40km. Your neighbourhood is yours, we have lots of places to go to between neighbourhoods and districts, and lots in each.
A lot of California is like this. I lived in San Diego and most homeowners had a golf cart. It’s actually really nice to use for groceries shopping and hauling coolers, surf boards, and small boats to the beach without using any gasoline. They are basically ultra light EVs.
Cali lets you register golf carts for the road as a non-highway vehicle. So you can putter around your local neighborhood but not any further. They actually reduce highway congestion and parking congestion since you can park 5 of them in a street parking space that holds only 2 cars.
Ehh. I fit myself, my wife, my kid, my dog, and a cooler and 2 surf boards on a golf cart and I can park it without needing to lock it up somewhere. A cargo bike that big easily costs 2-5x more than a golf cart. Realistically I’d actually need two cargo bikes to haul that much.
A single golf cart can hold 2-6 people plus cargo depending on the model. They fill the car niche better than the bike niche but at a ridiculously low price point if you aren’t getting fancy.
I tell ya, the present thing is rough. When I was a kid, I got cards from aunts and uncles. But now they all send gifts. So there is 5 gifts right there. Then there is the grandparents. They have so much time to shop, they can bring 5+ gifts for each kid and only spend $50. So we are already at 15 and we didn’t even buy anything yet. It’s nuts.
Also, everything seems to have to be a gift now. Can’t just buy a thing and give it to them. It has to wait to be a present. Or maybe that’s just my wife.
But also, when I was a kid, even in the rural area I lived, there was a convenience story where we could buy gum, or baseball cards and stuff for very little money. Now a pack of Pokémon is like $6 for way less cards. The only cheap things kids can buy is candy, and we aren’t supposed to let them do that anymore either. So everything ends up as a present.
Also, everything seems to have to be a gift now. Can’t just buy a thing and give it to them. It has to wait to be a present. Or maybe that’s just my wife.
We specifically don’t wait for holidays to give things we want to gift to our daughter (soon to be 3). On her birthday in two weeks she will get a book, a plush animal, and a second hand peppa pig puzzle (I hate peppa pig but she loves it and she doesn’t even know there is a show). That’s it, but she gets many things throughout the year. My husband hates holidays and celebrations, I think that’s where this feeling of “let’s please not make a huge stock of presents to give her twice a year” came from. And it is so much less pressure to find “the perfect gift”.
And you can get rid of things much more easily. I don’t know about you, but if I got a bad birthday present, I tend to keep it, because it was a birthday present. Same for children’s stuff. She got that for her first birthday feels different than she got that when she was around 14 months. Somehow it’s less sentimental, and I am an awfully sentimental and nostalgic person, so this saves my ass.
Another point is that can change interests so quickly. I would not dare to buy her something peppa pig themed right now for Christmas or plan ahead for her 4th birthday. Or let’s say she needs a new bike - why would I wait until the end of summer to give it to her just because it’s her birthday.
But talk to me again on September 9th, I usually get very sad that we don’t celebrate with a crap ton of presents and decorations and a big party right before her birthday.
My sister has a 3-row golf cart and I have no idea why. If I even ask she’s going to think I’m shaming her for being wealthy 😂
This reads exactly like my sister, if there wasn’t a photo I would think it was written by her. She has a closet filled with presents she is waiting to give her kids because they have too many at one given time
I’m putting my foot down! No more than fifteen presents!
What the actual fuck?
Also, what’s the deal with the golf cart? Why do they have a golf cart?
THUTTY SIX BUT LAHST! THUTTY SIX BUT LAHST!
It’s quite common here to have one for driving around neighbourhoods, as cheap ones can be $1,000+.
That still does not answer my “why” question tbh.
But I suppose that in a country where “walkable neighborhoods” are construed to be some nefarious communist plot to rob people of their freedom, not walking its a status symbol.
“for driving around neighbourhoods”, same as having a car.
So an inferior bicycle basically.
Depends on your needs.
Fair enough, although I’d argue getting around the neighborhood is easier on a narrow vehicle that can carry some cargo and doesn’t depend on batteries. A golf cart has all the downsides of a car in day to day use and it’s slower and exposed to the elements. It’s probably a Veblen good in this case.
My friends have one because they have a small baby and don’t want to use their scooters (small motorbikes) with her when going out. They don’t own a car. They can carry their shopping in it.
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Sometimes things depend on other things.
Your out of hand dismissal of complexity is, frankly, baffling and concerning.
That said, I have lived in suburbia all my life and never have I gone “hmmmm, I really wish I had a golf cart in addition to my car and bicycle”.
People in my neighborhood have golf carts as well. I don’t get it either. Just drive the car …
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The US hasn’t really discovered Bakfiet bicycles yet.
Watching people take six kindergarten kids or a whole refrigerator on a bike through town in Berlin and Amsterdam was wonderful. They could do a pretty good Costco run on those things.
Yes, but mostly used by fat, old people.
Yeah the why is laziness I guess? Why walk when you can drive a smaller electric buggy for small distances and a big car for big distances?
Golf carts make sense in retirement communities - presumably the companies behind them are “growing the market” by targeting families as an alternative to push chairs and walking? Also I’m guessing these are American neighbourhoods which still are designed around cars than true walkability?
They are popular in more affluent areas so they can be driven to clubhouses or other neighborhood spots, and unsurprisingly very common in neighborhoods that have their own golf course.
Imagine spending $1,000+ when walking is free.
I can imagine someone with a disability wanting a cart like this to get around, but this woman does not need a fucking golf cart.
We’re all going to die because of this overconsumption bullshit.
Does someone having one prevent someone from getting one?
My friends have one because they have a baby and no car. Is their consumption too much for you?
Having one instead of a car isn’t overconsumption, but the woman in this article clearly has both. It’s a problem.
This seems exclusive from that.
So, where I come from, there’s nothing to drive to in the neighborhood except other houses. Also, a neighborhood is at most a square mile. That’s all I envisioned.
What, exactly, did you even mean by “neighborhoods”? It’s starting to sound like you’re talking about driving several miles.
It can be several miles since my friend’s one goes for 40km. Your neighbourhood is yours, we have lots of places to go to between neighbourhoods and districts, and lots in each.
Again, I was just envisioning going around the neighborhood, not going all over a town or city.
Where is “here”?
A lot of California is like this. I lived in San Diego and most homeowners had a golf cart. It’s actually really nice to use for groceries shopping and hauling coolers, surf boards, and small boats to the beach without using any gasoline. They are basically ultra light EVs.
Cali lets you register golf carts for the road as a non-highway vehicle. So you can putter around your local neighborhood but not any further. They actually reduce highway congestion and parking congestion since you can park 5 of them in a street parking space that holds only 2 cars.
My first thought was “that’s insane”, but when you put it that way, it seems less insane than driving a car.
Normalize golf carts! I guess?! 🤷
Electric cargo bikes fill the same niche here. Well, minus the boat part.
I feel like people just haven’t tried hard enough with the boats. 😉
Ehh. I fit myself, my wife, my kid, my dog, and a cooler and 2 surf boards on a golf cart and I can park it without needing to lock it up somewhere. A cargo bike that big easily costs 2-5x more than a golf cart. Realistically I’d actually need two cargo bikes to haul that much.
A single golf cart can hold 2-6 people plus cargo depending on the model. They fill the car niche better than the bike niche but at a ridiculously low price point if you aren’t getting fancy.
Cambodia.
Seems ridiculous. Why not a bicycle?
Because babies exist.
Babies shouldn’t drive golf carts though
Shit, you got me.
Why should everyone live exactly how you want them to?
Can I do an audit of your life and switch everything over to how I think you should live?
Lol
Generally, people can live how they want. It doesn’t mean I can’t think doing something a certain way is ridiculous.
I did ask a “why” question. I’m open to changing my mind.
I tell ya, the present thing is rough. When I was a kid, I got cards from aunts and uncles. But now they all send gifts. So there is 5 gifts right there. Then there is the grandparents. They have so much time to shop, they can bring 5+ gifts for each kid and only spend $50. So we are already at 15 and we didn’t even buy anything yet. It’s nuts.
Also, everything seems to have to be a gift now. Can’t just buy a thing and give it to them. It has to wait to be a present. Or maybe that’s just my wife. But also, when I was a kid, even in the rural area I lived, there was a convenience story where we could buy gum, or baseball cards and stuff for very little money. Now a pack of Pokémon is like $6 for way less cards. The only cheap things kids can buy is candy, and we aren’t supposed to let them do that anymore either. So everything ends up as a present.
We specifically don’t wait for holidays to give things we want to gift to our daughter (soon to be 3). On her birthday in two weeks she will get a book, a plush animal, and a second hand peppa pig puzzle (I hate peppa pig but she loves it and she doesn’t even know there is a show). That’s it, but she gets many things throughout the year. My husband hates holidays and celebrations, I think that’s where this feeling of “let’s please not make a huge stock of presents to give her twice a year” came from. And it is so much less pressure to find “the perfect gift”.
And you can get rid of things much more easily. I don’t know about you, but if I got a bad birthday present, I tend to keep it, because it was a birthday present. Same for children’s stuff. She got that for her first birthday feels different than she got that when she was around 14 months. Somehow it’s less sentimental, and I am an awfully sentimental and nostalgic person, so this saves my ass.
Another point is that can change interests so quickly. I would not dare to buy her something peppa pig themed right now for Christmas or plan ahead for her 4th birthday. Or let’s say she needs a new bike - why would I wait until the end of summer to give it to her just because it’s her birthday.
But talk to me again on September 9th, I usually get very sad that we don’t celebrate with a crap ton of presents and decorations and a big party right before her birthday.
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My sister has a 3-row golf cart and I have no idea why. If I even ask she’s going to think I’m shaming her for being wealthy 😂
This reads exactly like my sister, if there wasn’t a photo I would think it was written by her. She has a closet filled with presents she is waiting to give her kids because they have too many at one given time