• BaroqueInMind@kbin.social
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    Please, sane rando on the internet, pray tell, what more intelligent things would you like to share without any context or citations of source?

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      i hope you’re young because being ignorant of his very public stances against gay marriage; against gays in the military; pro-segregation and non-dischargeable student loan debt is the only way you can be excused from knowning and a 30 second google search will confirm that he still stands by those decisions. educate yourself.

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        Unfortunately I’m old. Can you please help me out by linking articles that support your statements, so I can read them and help you change my mind about him? Thank you.

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            But the truth matters. Biden’s views on same-sex marriage have never been cutting-edge. When majorities opposed it, so did he. Once support for same-sex marriage became the mainstream Democratic position, Biden adopted it.

            Okay I see, so he’s a two-faced politician who doesn’t understand the full picture. It’s all coming together now why certain groups within the Left don’t like him.

            So you have me on your side now. What options do we have in the next election cycle?

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              none since too many people support him completely out of ignorance of what he’s done and said; like you did.

              it’s mind blowing that there are literally videos of him doing shitty things that a 30 second google search will show you, but people will still refused to believe it; we’re no better than maga-ites

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                we’re no better than maga-ites

                Not true because this conversation between you and I have been sane, respectful, and you changed my mind with facts. They aren’t capable of this feat and will stagnate.

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                  They aren’t capable of this feat and will stagnate.

                  my maga father changed his mind when presented with facts; also my exchanges with others; and all the downvotes in this same thread are reaffirming my suspicion that liberals and maga are the same.

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      The person your responding to is absolutely correct. For the majority of Biden’s career he was pretty despicable politician. He was one of the angry men yelling at the Anita Hill hearings. He famously lied about his credentials early on. For most of his career he has been owned by wall street. in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s he publicly had pretty hardcore racist and homophobic views. The Biden you see today is not the Biden most of America knows. He has never been a progressive ally.

      https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/joe-biden-record-on-busing-incarceration-racial-justice-democratic-primary-2020-explained.html

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        They’re not correct at all lol

        Biden has never been a racist. People try to call him racist over a crime bill half-written by black congressional leaders and loudly asked for by the black community.

        Biden has literally always been a stand up guy

        Calling out his busing stance as wrong when it was prescient and he was 100% correct about a generation of black educators losing their jobs is… An interesting take, to say the least.

        Maybe don’t get your news from rags

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          Did you not see his response in the primary debates when kamala called out his segregation policies? Rather than admit that it was the wrong decision, he defended it and used the times as an excuse. Just look at his voting record, he’s been very conservative over his career. It doesn’t matter though, people change, and actions speak louder than words. He’s doing good stuff as president and that’s what matters right now.

          Edit: spelled Kamala wrong and I’m embarrassed

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            Perhaps rather than an abrupt about-face at 80 years old, you’re simply incorrect about Biden’s “history.”

            He was right about schools. We lost a generation of black educators due to the way desegregation was handled nationwide. Biden accurately commented on this. We could have done better, which is literally what he was arguing for.

            I actually learned of this fact tangentially, through an old episode of Revisionist History. His campaign ignored it because it’s safer to ignore than to trust people to understand nuance. Sound campaign move, but plays to a lie, fundamentally.

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          you’re splitting hairs and you’re being disingenuous by ignoring all the other bad shit he’s done. off the top of my head his stances against gay marriage, against gays in the military and permanent-for-life student debt are enough to brand him an ass hat and the fact that he still stands by those decisions proves that he’s not worthy of your vote.

          you should educate yourself