• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Because Germany didn’t then exist under decades of apartheid where they were denied basic services just due to the accident of their birth. Even East Germans had it far, far better than Gazans.

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      The Nazis played on Germans agrievement over how they were treated post WW1 to gain support, Gaza only ended up on the situation it is now because surrounding countries kept attacking Isreal over the last 70 years and lost land to them, then Hamas/the PLO/etc have played on similar agrievements to get themselves into the leadership position and have now lead them into a war.

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        Gaza only ended up on the situation it is now because surrounding countries kept attacking Isreal over the last 70 years and lost land to them, then Hamas/the PLO/etc have played on similar agrievements to get themselves into the leadership position and have now lead them into a war.

        Just FYI, Gazans are refugees who were forced to the Gaza strip by… ISRAEL! Woohoo.

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          Yes, war creates refugees, always has. Maybe all those surrounding nations that went to war with Isreal should have considered that.

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          Yes, and when you do that, no journalists will chase you to scream, “BUT DO YOU CONDEMN ISRAEL?”

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          No, not no culpability, but understandable reasons for what they’ve had to do for their own safety over the years.

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              1 year ago

              Seems to be the escalation was Hamas invasion of their country on Saturday from where I’m sitting.

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                Gaza is not Hamas and Hamas is not Gaza. Those children are innocent and they’re nearly half the population, as the post says. When you put a huge number of innocent people under siege, and kill more of them than were killed on your side, you’re escalating.

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                  1 year ago

                  Like it or not, Hamas are the defacto leader of Gaza, voted for in 2006. You can make all sorts of arguments about what’s happened after that, but if the people of Gaza have made no attempt to remove them from leadership since then this is the outcome.

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                    Hamas are the defacto leader of Gaza, voted for in 2006. You can make all sorts of arguments about what’s happened after that, but if the people of Gaza have made no attempt to remove them from leadership since then this is the outcome.

                    Sure, let’s blame the civilian Palestinian deaths on the Israelis that voted this current gov’t into power…

                    Oh wait, this isn’t how it works

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        Israel didn’t exist there prior…

        They took land (rather, were given land by western empires that wasn’t there’s to give) and kicked out and killed those who were there. Yeah, that’s didn’t create any resentment at all I’m sure and it’s all the attacks that happened in response that caused it.

        Someone else can always be blamed. To act like Israel doesn’t share in the blame is probably one of the most ignorant statements I’ve heard.

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          Actually, we did have the right to give out that land as we won it from the Ottomans.