• vzq@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    As someone recently told me, they don’t worry about saving lives, they worry about saving souls.

    You need to abide by the quaint rules of the magical sky daddy for that, even if they don’t make sense.

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      13 days ago

      Except clearly any aborted fetus would immediately go to heaven based on what’s written in the bible. In fact, heaven should be absolutely completely full of dead babies based on miscarriages, stillbirths, etc. if you believe that they get a soul at the moment of conception.

      So that logic doesn’t really make sense either. Which is par for the course.

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        Actually, nobody goes to heaven when they die (according to the bible). Everyone must wait until judgement day when all the graves, etc, open and we all face judgement at that point. This surprised me when I first learned it because it goes against all the Christian culture I’ve ever been taught and experienced.

        So grandma isn’t currently in heaven no matter how good she was.

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          That’s a huge relief that perhaps my grandparents haven’t seen my embarrassing moments after all.

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          12 days ago

          and judgement is not “brought back to life just to be sent back immediately”… no, it will be a good span of time to live without evil on the earth…

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        I was juuuuuuust about to explain how making sense isn’t a requirement to them, until I saw your last sentence. Then I knew you already get it.

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        Uhh no? Non-baptized souls go to limbo according to Christian theology.

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          That depends on which flavor of Christianity you’re looking at, but even the Catholics don’t think they go to Limbo, the pope had an entire study done on it, and the result was “we hope they go to heaven but we don’t know”

          A lot of the other denominations don’t subscribe to the original sin shtick, and therefore babies would go to heaven even without being baptized.

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            I always loved the “do uncontacted remote tribes that haven’t heard of God or Jesus go to heaven?” question. So far everyone has answered yes. And then you realize that Christians could save everyone, everywhere, forever, just by destroying all their literature, not teaching religion, and letting it die with them. One sacrificial generation and everyone is saved forever.

            But they won’t do it because of greed and pride, the core aspects of their belief system.

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      I dont think it really has anything to do with that. A state recently sued due to abortion and teen pregnancy reduction efforts leading to decreased teenage pregnancy rates arguing something along the lines of our populations are going down and it will cost us in population, political representation, and federal resources.

      This is about cheap/free labor, disenfranchising women, and maintaining a permanent disabled and poverty-stricken underclasses that keep everyone on up in line with the hierarchy

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      12 days ago

      But the Skyfather himself has given us directions to induce a miscarriage with a tabernacle dust smoothie.