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    Agreed with your reasons, but she made points I have never heard about that I found interesting, like disappearing of some femininity aspects to awkwardly try to avoid sexism accusations. I wanted to share a point of view that I think is rarely shared in gaming communities.
    I don’t follow YouTube drama much, so I don’t know who Asmongold is.

    The reason I ended up there is because I recently started playing Oblivion, and saw her videos mentioned.

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      she made points I have never heard about that I found interesting, like disappearing of some femininity aspects to awkwardly try to avoid sexism accusations.

      These are very common talking points of gamer gate bigots. It’s a giant red flag, because the people who talk about it are bigots

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          She shouts out a racist who was banned from twitch for bigotry, so I’d say it’s pretty spot on as a red flag.

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        I think you may have a a specific experience that makes this very common for you. I personally don’t interact with those subjects much, so I didn’t know. Thank you for sharing your view.

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          Gamergate is not a very specific circumstance. It was a widespread harassment campaign involving the entire industry. This is a follow on from that movement, and any game that releases a female protagonist that isn’t soft and demure gets active push back from this group.

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        I didn’t watch the video and probably never will, simply because I’ve watched too many and I hate that topic so much I spend the time I used to watch YouTube now on playing games.

        I have played a particular western made game for the first time and finished it about a week ago. Without spoilering the massive thing that happens, I try to be as generic as possible: I have not played a single western made game in the last 5 years where the hero physically saves a girl, only to be saved by her emotionally.

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            If I would be any less vague, it would be like “when Luke found out he kissed his sister shortly before facing his father for the final time”

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          I’m trying to think of any game I played that was like that. You have some examples (western or not, old or not) on your mind?

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        I think it’s better to check the source by yourself since it appears to be more sensitive than I expected.

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            As I said, most of the points made in the video I didn’t think about before, and I find it interesting to know other reasons why people play old games or are patient gamers, that’s why I shared it here. I think the person is simply expressing her taste, maybe it’s traditional stereotypes for some people, but you can’t decide of your tastes, I didn’t find it hateful. Now people who defend trans people found this video offensive, which I was miles away from expecting, and many people decided to jump on this wagon and decided this is a hateful post based on prior comments without watching the video. Also as I said other places, I am not knowledgeable in trans defense, so maybe it’s possible they are correct.

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              You’re the only person to mention trans people in this thread. It’s got nothing to do with trans folk…

              decided this is a hateful post based on prior comments without watching the video.

              I had to watch the video to see her dog whistle.

              And the whole thing about red flag/dog whistle comments is that they’re designed to seem like nothing to people who don’t recognise them. You not recognising a dog whistle doesn’t mean it isn’t one…

              The fact that she shouts out another steamer that was banned from twitch for bigotry isn’t a co-incidence. It’s a red flag for a reason