"But Rachel also has another hobby, one that makes her a bit different from the other moms in her Texas suburb—not that she talks about it with them. Once a month or so, after she and her husband put the kids to bed, Rachel texts her in-laws—who live just down the street—to make sure they’re home and available in the event of an emergency.

“And then, Rachel takes a generous dose of magic mushrooms, or sometimes MDMA, and—there’s really no other way to say this— spends the next several hours tripping balls.”

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      I’m not evading anything. Your entire argument throughout this submission has ultimately whittled down to a disbelief that inhaling smoke can have adverse health effects and, yes, cause cancer.

      Why say “if”? It’s not “if” - it is a well-established fact of biology.

      You may as well be saying “if the world really is a sphere”, or “if climate change is real”.

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          Stop the sealioning.

          Firstly, there’s nothing suggest they’re suspect.

          And secondly, back to what I’m actually talking about, you’re clearly trying to cast doubt on whether breathing in smoke is bad for you. There is no “if”. Smoking does cause cancer.

          And it may shock you to find out that cancer does indeed cause death (it’s true, cancer really does cause death. I can give you sources on that if you like).

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            Firstly, there’s nothing suggest they’re suspect.

            Apart from the fact that, as I said, they come from David Nutt, who won’t say where he got the numbers from. Why that isn’t an issue to you, I don’t know.

            you’re clearly trying to cast doubt on whether breathing in smoke is bad for you.

            I am doing no such thing. If you’re going to lie about what I am saying directly to me, this conversation is over.

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              Read the study.

              You are doing such thing. You’ve repeatedly sidestepped it, and keep using language to cast doubt on it.

              I want you to tell me right now that breathing in smoke, unequivocally, causes cancer, and therefore death.

              Again, this is not a thing in doubt. It’s not an “if”. It’s an established fact.

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                I have read the study. Both of you have told me to read the study. I did. I don’t think either of you did or you would quote what supports the chart’s claim that there is a significant mortality risk due to using cannabis.

                The study simply does not show where this information comes from.

                Don’t tell me to read the study when you have not.

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                  Does inhaling smoke cause cancer, yes or no?

                  Why are you evading this so much? Why do you seemingly not believe that inhaling smoke can cause cancer? It absolutely does.

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                    Why are you evading this so much?

                    Now that is some irony. You’ve been evading my one claim this entire time: the mortality numbers are suspect, something I was saying before you even replied to me. No, I’m not going to move on to the lung cancer thing until my issue is addressed first. I’m not going to just drop what I was talking about initially and talk about what you want to talk about instead.

                    You also evaded what I literally just said- that you didn’t read the study you told me to read.

                    Do you see yourself when you look in the mirror?