• acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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    22 days ago

    Doesn’t RH, SuSE, et al have it, though?

    Years ago a friend of mine used to run a cyber cafe on Linux, with fully automated remote management. Have we regressed that much from there?

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      22 days ago

      Im not aware of any Active directory type server system for Linux.

      Another problem is the second and especially third level support. That is pretty rare for Linux, there aren’t many Linux ready Sysadmins.

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        22 days ago
        1. LDAP and / or Kerberos?
        2. That’s what Enterprise Distros are for (Redhat, SLES, Ubuntu)
        3. “Linux-ready sysadmins” is a hen-and-egg problem. If people keep maintaining a rotting Windows ecosystem, thus do not establish a market for linux sysadmins, less people will study in that direction.

        Nevertheless, from my personal experience, corporate IT in non-software enterprises is full of clueless sys"admins" who just go by flowcharts and if that doesn’t help escalate to Microsoft support, and if they can’t help they close tickets as “use as-is”.

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          22 days ago

          Hey, don’t attack me for it. I’m aware that the admin problem is a hen-and-egg problem but it doesn’t change the fact that the shit show works enough to justify not switching for basically everyone.

          Problem with enterprise Linux is that they feel experimental to the people in charge.

          (About the AD, yeah, I didn’t know about it to that degree, all the end user systems I manage are winass, even though I manage a number of Linux Servers for specific purposes)

          Yeah many in house personal IT from businesses is… Semi capable, they are enough for first and partially second level support, I know some petty good ones but I’m working as a service provider for second and third level support and coordination of specified support (Microsoft, Telecommunications providers, ISP, security management etc.) and I made very similar experiences. But most they do all they is first level support anyway, at last in small and medium sized IT environments.

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            Honestly I didn’t mean to attack you, I tried to make some suggestions and argue some of your points :) My experience as a tech savvy user is that I regularly have to fight corporate IT for permissions /services that permit me to work at full potential, because they keep offering solutions for dumb users and for windows and microsoft based products only. I managed to break free mostly without being self-employed but it was a long uphill battle with stupid people telling me how IT works…

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        22 days ago

        Linux supports active directory natively and can be joined to a windows hosted active directory domain. It supports centralized policy management as well and in addition there’s a completely open source implementation in: https://www.openldap.org/ supported by RedHat.

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          22 days ago

          Hm, wasn’t aware of that, but that’s probably because I can’t work with Linux on that level, I knew Linux had some AD capabilities but I don’t know how far they go and how scalable they are.

          The problematics with the admins is still there however.

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            22 days ago

            Yeah. Microsoft has definitely cornered the market on corporate education for sysadmins.

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              22 days ago

              I really think the cartel offices need to do something against Microsoft.

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              Hey, don’t you know you need to become a Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert to do business properly?