• freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    The fault lies squarely with people who make assinine claims without any evidence, pretending they hold some deep wisdom when they really don’t know shit.

    You are the evidence to support my claim, Poopster, in case that wasn’t obvious.

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          8 days ago

          When did voting become mandatory?

          The only obligation to voting is your right to exercise it how you choose, full stop. It is not anyone’s “job” to vote any specific way, this is the entitlement Democratic voters need to get over.

          Yeah, Trump won because he convinced his base he was worth voting for. Harris couldn’t convince her base that he was a threat and that she was worth voting for.

          She did try to win over Republican voters instead of her own, though. 94% of them voted Republican anyway, just like they did in 2020.

          But I’m sure you’ll tell me that was the voter’s fault too. 🙄

          Edit: I brought up mandatory voting because it could be legislated that way, just as voting day could be made a federal holiday. And laws could be passed to mandate paid time off to allow essential workers to vote on voting day if absentee/early voting are unavailable. Or what if you were automatically registered to vote on your 18th birthday, none of this registering nonsense.

          Damn, those are all great policy ideas that the Democrats could run on, or even implement, since they have been outwardly more supportive of people voting. Funny that they haven’t done that in the last couple decades…

          … It’s almost like the Dems don’t want that roughly 60% of people who don’t vote to start voting. Wonder why that is…

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            8 days ago

            When did voting become mandatory?

            i didn’t say it did.

            Fact of the matter is, if you don’t exercise your vote, and the result is worse, you exercised your vote badly. There is no difference between not voting, and having a bad outcome, and voting (for the wrong thing) and having a bad outcome. They are the same.

            It is not anyone’s “job” to vote any specific way, this is the entitlement Democratic voters need to get over.

            i don’t disagree, and in fact, i agree, this is an entitlement that democrats need to get over, because if they did get over it, we would start fucking winning. The republicans are literally an abusive partner right now, and we’re just sitting here like “well maybe if i close my eyes he won’t hit me” and then being really fucking confused when it doesn’t do anything.

            As a party, we’re literally cannibalizing ourselves over this issue. It’s not that deep, just vote for the least bad candidate, and get over it, go do local political lobbying, go vote in primaries, go vote in local elections, whatever the fuck, nobody cares, just do something

            She did try to win over Republican voters instead of her own, though. 94% of them voted Republican anyway, just like they did in 2020.

            she didn’t try to win over republican voters, she tried to win over moderate voters. I would say it worked to some degree. But obviously since we got like a 50% turnout, it’s really hard to say if anything worked, and frankly, i think the democratic institution is failing right now. If we don’t get up and do something about it in the next 4 years, the republicans are going to run uncontested.

            it’s funny that the image says moderate republicans, and while that’s partially true, it’s also pushing for support from the moderate left. Which is the vast majority of the party. She was also appealing to the moderate left (most of the dem party)

            Damn, those are all great policy ideas that the Democrats could run on, or even implement, since they have been outwardly more supportive of people voting. Funny that they haven’t done that in the last couple decades…

            maybe they should, but in defense of them, running on voting policy, in a federal election is pretty fucking silly. You can’t really do much about it on a federal level.

            It’s almost like the Dems don’t want that roughly 60% of people who don’t vote to start voting. Wonder why that is…

            so they can lose repeatedly to the republican party? ok.