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      as a trans person, can you not call everything that inconveniences you as a trans person transphobic? You’re devaluing the actual struggles we have to face with “i can’t play video game because of transphobia :(”. Besides, there are ways to go around the region lock, just Google the “transphobia” away

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        can you not call everything that inconveniences you as a trans person transphobic?

        No. Drag is sick to death of being so far away from drag’s family. Drag is sick of a society that won’t accept drag, and only being able to find partners through discord. Cishet people have it so easy, it’s not fair. And along comes Steam, “A family is a group that lives in the same home”. No! Get your heteronormative nuclear family bullshit out of drag’s video games. Drag plays games to get away from patriarchal politics, and Steam goes shoving them into their new features and deprecating the old. They should have focus tested this change. Anyone in a long distance relationship could have told them this was a bad move. This move comes from Valve employees being brainwashed by society into seeing a family as what the white patriarchy says a family is. Drag has spent drag’s entire life, as a gay person, being excluded from the white concept of family. We barely even have equal marriage rights. This is a symbolic issue of a lifelong struggle.

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          drag, go touch grass. Seeing every minor inconvenience as a personal attack of the heteronormative patriarchy can’t be good for you

          and again - I’m telling you this for the third time, you can go around the region lock.

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          So you realize that all you’re talking about can apply to cis-hetero people as well, right? Hell, it for sure applies to a bigger number of them than of any other group.

          Anyone can live far or close to their family. Anyone can have a hard or easy time bonding with others. Anyone can be in a long distance relationship. Gays and people of color do have traditional families (hell, if I’m not mistaken their divorce rate is lower than heteros!)

          Just because it affects you doesn’t make it anti trans or homophobic or aimed at your group.

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              and how do you know that?

              you feel like a victim because society is indeed oppressive towards LGBTQ minorities, but if you see yourself as a victim all the time you’ll just end up depressed and miserable.

              no, Steam is not being biased against minorities, intentionally or otherwise, they’re just not. This feature was in beta for a long time and for most of the beta anybody could join any family from any country. The choice to make it more restricted wasn’t to fuck up people who don’t live with their families - it was to prevent the abuse of the feature that must’ve come to light during the beta.

              Steam wanted to improve their family share, and the did, greatly in fact. But they had to include limitations to prevent cases where someone gets financially abused online, or someone joins a stranger’s family and then gets kicked out immediately and needs to wait 6 months join any other family, or someone joins a game hoarder’s family and then never buys a game again.

              That limitation can still be worked around the good old way - by logging into another person’s machine and joining their family that way, but for that you need to trust the other person to not fuck up your account - and that’s enough to discourage most of the extreme cases. They’re just not going to beam that information to the public as that’d defeat the point of establishing that limitation in the first place, and even encourage people to trust random strangers that could have malicious intent.

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              Maybe, it still doesn’t mean the intent is to hurt non-cis people and you can’t expect them to make an exception for people they can’t prove are part of a certain minority and you can’t expect them to make the thing free-for-all either.

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          your discord role play friends are not your family

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      Why do you say it’s transphobic? It is not based on sexuality at all. Simply on economic regions

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        Trans families are less likely to live in the same economic region. Statistically, this is taking features away from trans people moreso than cis people. Transphobia isn’t an intention, it’s a consequence.

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            No it doesn’t. It’s called systemic bigotry. You see it in critical race theory. The system is set up to disadvantage minorities, such that innocent decisions go on to harm minorities too.

            Now that Donald Trump is the next president, you’ll see a LOT of trans people fleeing the US who leave family behind. Steam used to offer trans people fleeing persecution the ability to share games with their family at home. It’s a horrible coincidence in timing that Steam deprecates this feature on the same day many trans people realise they have to flee the country or die.

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              It’s a creative way to live life. More power to you.

              Which gaming service will you be moving to that supports global game sharing? Actually, what other game service supports sharing at all? I think steam is alone

              Since epic doesn’t allow any game sharing, it’s epic more transphobic than steam? Or less transphobic than steam? Because they’re not taking away something they never offered

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                Probably less so

                Drag still prefers Steam over Epic, because of Epic’s horrible record of monopolistic and anticompetitive business practices. However, drag doesn’t have to choose, because you know who does let family share games for free? Fitgirl.

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                  probably less so

                  Epic is less transphobic than steam because they never offered any game sharing, steam is more transphobic than epic because they have offered family game sharing… By extension of that logic that means … Offering an extra service like library sharing with family, is transphobic

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          I’d say it’s a stretch to call it transphobic just because of that. Unless you can actually back it up with evidence of intent from valve.