• nednobbins@lemm.ee
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      13 days ago

      It’s cute that you can call me names.

      Can you also articulate positive changes that have resulted from the 10 biggest protest?

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        Women’s Suffrage was fairly significant and the Civil Rights movement also used protests. Then in the 2000s people rose up against the canceling of Firefly and demanded a movie as compensation. Serenity was that movie and it was awesome and it remains amazing.

        Finally, internationally one man named Gandhi used nonviolence to defeat the British empire.

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          Women’s Suffrage (and additional rights) and the Civil Rights movement both had many successes. They also used many tactics and strategies besides protests and that makes it hard to attribute their success to protests. That’s why I looked at the 10 largest protests in the US on Wikipedia. There’s obviously some subjectivity to which protests are the most salient but it’s fair to assume that a large number of those should actually be the most important protests. The fact that we didn’t see progress as a response to any of the biggest protests suggests that they don’t have much of an impact.

          I view the Firefly situation a bit differently too. We actually wanted them to bring Firefly back as a show. As near as I can tell Joss made the movie (which I agree was and still is awesome) because he loved the story and wanted to finish it. He may have been uplifted by the support of the fans but he didn’t give in to anyone’s demands. Fans kept badgering him to pick the series up after the movie and argued that the success of the movie proved that the series would make money but he told us that wasn’t possible because too many of the actors where on other projects. I have to admit that Summer Glau made a pretty good terminator.

          Ghandi is an interesting case. He also used many tactics and strategies beyond protest and he was dealing with a very different situation. Their oppressor was thousands of miles away and got a bit tied up with bigger problems. There is also a strong academic consensus that he likely delayed Indian independence.

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        13 days ago

        It’s not me that needs to write that history essay, it’s you. I’m not doing your work for you. Try reading a book.

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          How about you can the “I’m-not-gonna-do-your-work-for-you” shit and just answer the question, if you can? Because it sounds like you’re just trying to save face because he has your ass over a barrel and you know it.

          Maybe we should stop being in denial about how useless the left is in this country and actually organize into an effective voting block.

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            And once I write his essay, taking up my time from the ongoing civil war coverage and totally unpaid labor you feel entitled to even though it’s my body… once I write that, he will move the goalposts again to nowthe top 20 protests or whatever. I already listed a source that was more than adequate with many examples. Why do you need me to rewrite expert opinion? Do you lack the reading level necessary to read it yourself? If so, there are old civil rights speeches you can watch.

            ass over a barrel

            First off, no, he looks stupid and uneducated about a civil rights issue with decades of expert literature and second this is an insane thing to say to a woman in the middle of ‘your body, my choice.’ Stop with the rape talk.