• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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      1 month ago

      Be clear: I want the very worst for him, but I want it to come from a system of justice, not a method that often leads to innocent bystanders being hurt.

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        1 month ago

        Read the room, my guy. America has no system of justice. Most of these abhorrent people are on their way to governmental leadership positions. There’s no highroad that leads to winning back the country or justice.

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          1 month ago

          The lack of quality doesn’t mean I need to accept “worse”. I certainly don’t need to cheer for it, even if I personally can’t stop it.

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            Well keep praying to yourself it we’ll get better. Cause it isn’t going to. You have just elected a rapist criminal egomaniac into office. And most of the country doesn’t care.

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              1 month ago

              I never said do nothing. Just don’t do things that can accidentally hurt innocent people. I also know I didn’t vote for him.

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        I think maybe the problem here is there is no justice when the system has failed by not confining the worst behaviors of the rich. We have no access to the tools you have mentioned, such as prosecution. Their felonious leader has modeled their path forward by evading any and all consequence. We are the innocent bystanders. They have already normalized harming us and now they will legislate it. We must resist the bystander effect at all cost.

        What do you suggest in this scenario?

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          Thanks for actually discussing things with me, your comment is great. The concerns you list are super super valid.

          Let me share my perspective on doxxing in light of your comment: I feel that to accept the normalization of the act of doxxing to be somewhat like the bystander effect. (Please keep reading, I’m not trying to twist your words). If we see doxxing happening, and say “yeah, that’s a normal thing you do” it’s as if we just keep on walking while the house burns (I think that’s what happened in the original event the effect is based on). Edit you can disagree with me, that’s ok. I’m just trying to use the example you provided to house the discussion.

          Instead I think we should stand up against that even when they do it regularly.

          I do not have a full answer for you regarding how we can alternatively take the fight to fascists, my point, which I have been slammed on here is that I fundamentally believe the task should be attempted, to our last moments, without using the tools of the oppressors. But I’m happy to keep noodling on it with you, as you are actually discussing.