NEW YORK, Dec 11 (Reuters) - In the days since Luigi Mangione was charged with murder for gunning down a top health insurance executive, more than a thousand donations have poured into an online fundraiser for his legal defense, with messages supporting him and even celebrating the crime.
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Most of the messages on the crowd-sourced fundraising site GiveSendGo reflect a deep frustration shared by many Americans over the U.S. healthcare system - where some treatments and reimbursements can be denied to patients depending on their insurance coverage - as well as broader anger over rising income inequality and soaring executive pay.
GIvesendgo legal fund for those who want to see.
The crime he is accused of has been broadly condemned
Uhh, no, it’s not.
They paid one man to go to California and condemn it and another man to go to florida and condemn it. See, broadly condemned.
Saying the crime was “broadly condemned” in the same article about the flood of money and support he’s received, with a large section of said article being about the praise given online, is an interesting way to frame things.
The crime he is accused of has
been broadly condemnedfound broad support crisscrossing social and political linesftf them
The crime he is accused of has been broadly condemned by the victims peers, the public however has remained supportive of his actions.
Shhhhh… they are trying to create a narrative! You can’t just go contradicting them like that!
“They’ve made him a martyr for all the troubles people have had with their own insurance companies,” said Rodriguez “I mean, who hasn’t had run-ins with their insurance? But he’s a stone-cold killer.”
Most of the developed world outside of America.
It happens to everyone, once a doctor prescribed a medicine off-label and my Krankenkasse (german non-profit health insurance) refused to cover all of it. I had to pay 10 euros out of my own pocket.The pharmacist was super apologetic about the whole thing. /s
As an American living in Germany I find it hilarious how Germans complain about the smallest cost of their prescriptions. I got some basic blood work done before my insurance kicked in and the doctor was going over the cost like I was going to flip my shit hearing it. I told him I was American and laughed. €25 for blood work and zero cost for just speaking to you? Sign me the fuck up. I paid $100 for a consultation about sinus infection that lasted 5 minutes at a general practice i Washington DC. You don’t scare me!
I take adhd medicine in Germany that I also took in the US. In the US, I had to pay $50 for a doctor’s appointment, ~$200 for a drug test to make sure I was taking it and only it, and then $220 for one month of the generic brand. Then, when I hit my deductible in about June, the drug test was free, my appointment was $30, and the medication was $50. For this privilege, I paid $13k/year in premiums. In Germany, I get insurance for about €140/month while working part time at a bakery, then all my required appointments are free, no drug test, and I get two months of the brand name medication for under €16.
I was making over $60k/year in the US, not living in a major city. I now earn a few euros more than minimum wage at a part time job in Germany. Things are significantly more affordable here.
One of the most surreal experiences in my life was riding in an ambulance in Norway and having the EMT sheepishly explain that while the ambulance ride was free, the ER visit was going to come with a bill. He was equal parts embarrassed and indignant about it. The bill was the equivalent of $25.
That’s because the costs are negotiated centrally, so healthcare is relatively cheap even if you have to pay for it. Some European countries are even having problems because some Americans found out that it’s often much cheaper to pay for a plane ticket, a nice hotel, and the treatment costs fully out of their own pocket in Europe than having the same treatment in the US even with insurance.
I was talking to a friend of mine in Canada about this recently. He has some minor gripes, but nothing like what I have. I told them my recent ER visit approached $15k in charges and they were aghast. They couldn’t even comprehend it. Like, their brain just broke and shut off. It made no sense to them.
It shouldn’t make sense to us, either. We should have a similar reaction, but I think we’ve been slowly boiled so long that we don’t.
Time to take it back.
This whole thing has been excellent for countries with public healthcare systems under threat of the private sector trying to crack the armour. It sends a message to political careers, when the centre of the world’s capitalism clearly hates their current setup. It underscores to the most selfish of politicians that public support is more valuable than whatever form of “lobbying” deal a private company may bring to the table they don’t fundamentally belong at.
Tbh, it’s probably a really weird week to be Canadian. Here’s confirmation about the importance of socialized hc, but also a bunch of uncomfortable “jokes” from your very unstable and militarily powerful southern neighbor.
So how do we donate to something that isn’t a scam to get our money lol
