• remotelove@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Nope. The media will continue to bring crime forward as a story and the perception of people will stay constant. If I had to guess, people will continue to say that crime is getting worse, or it’s the worst it has ever been.

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      Crime statistics are literally just made up. Your local PD decided whats a crime and whats not, it could be the same exact thing but a crime one day and an incident the next. Fight at private high school? Not a crime. Fight at the low income area public high school? Crime.

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        A ton of crime does go unreported in general, so yeah. Numbers for crimes that are less severe than murder are probably way off.

        Murder numbers would be fairly accurate, I would imagine. If those numbers are significantly off, there are some serious issues with reporting.

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          Yeah. We aren’t reporting any crime. Like when the cops are told to round up the homeless because it’s cutting into the city’s corrupt recycling program, so they arrest them for nothing just to get them off the street.

          We are talking murders. People don’t not report them. And if someone goes missing, we don’t typically just let it go either.

          Theft and assault? Those are going to be all over the map. But murders tend to be really accurate and sort of impervious to the “dark figure of crime.”

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            The missing part…yes they do. They absolutely do. There are a fuck ton of missing people who are most likely dead. The solve rate on missing persons is pretty damn low.

            According to the NamUs database, there are 600,000 people declared missing every year. Alongside that statistic, there are 4,400 unidentified bodies discovered every year. That means only 0.7333% of people who go missing are found and unable to be identified.

            https://www.wvnstv.com/digital-desk/how-many-missing-persons-are-found-in-the-u-s-yearly/

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              Stats show that the US has about a 6% murder rate per 100k. That’s about 250k murders per year, give or take.

              And you’re talking about 4K bodies or 6k unsolved murders? Bro.

              Over 95% of murders are reported to the police in the USA. So yeah, not sure what you’re trying to show with those numbers, but like I said originally, murders in 1st world nations aren’t prone to even near the same level misinterpretation as say theft or even sexual assault (as most go unreported).

              Not even sure what compelled you to argue this.

              PS: just from a logical argument point of view, what good is a numerator without a denominator?

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                You literally said if someone goes missing that people don’t let it go…when in fact they absolutely do. And it’s at an alarming rate…I don’t know why you’re annoyed at me with the numbers I have presented. Be pissed at the police.

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        Remember less that a year ago when Covid went from a pandemic to nonexistent?

        That was because state governments stopped collecting the data, not because covid went away.

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          It was also because we have medicine now and Covid isn’t swamping the ER with cases. Most people can just take the medicine at home.

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            Yes. Vaccinated peoples don’t tend to need ventilators. As much.

            But that’s not why numbers stopped being collected. They stopped being collected because of political consequences for reelection for the lack of action elected officials took. So their response was to do less.

            I am 2 jabs in and zero covid infections in. Because I’m not a petulant 5 year old, I still wear a mask, and I still social distance.

            Can’t wait for an incubator to infect me and put me on a ventilator.

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              They stopped collecting because it is too expensive. Some cities are monitoring virus titer through waste water. Hospitals, etc are not regularly testing or reporting. Source - know the state deputy directory for infectious disease prevention and control. Their department doubled during the pandemic and has now been cut in half. Epidemiologists are expensive, as are national guard personnel used for contact tracing.

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              The infection rates of COVID are still variable and it hasn’t really gone away. The dangers still exist, for the most part. However, I personally think it is going the way of the flu and its almost there.

              The biggest danger of COVID was that it was new, there were no vaccines and nobody had an immunity to it. It was a quick killer and nobody knew why, yet

              TBH, it’s good practice to keep wearing a mask if you want to limit yourself from getting sick. However, I do believe that the risk of death or needing a ventilator has gone down significantly. Post-infection treatments exist and the virus isn’t much of a mystery anymore.

              I have always tried to socially distance even before it was a thing. (Malls were always an unpleasant experience for me. I can’t stand smelling other people as they walk past me…)

              My point, is that the risk of being put on a ventilator is much lower even without masks or social distancing. You do you, by all means! It just seems that being as fearful of it is not necessary any more. (It’s still a nasty little virus, don’t get me wrong.)

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                IMO, covid has gone the way of leaded water.

                Long covid is still a thing.

                But some folks don’t want help.

                Cool, I can wear this mask for years.