• CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org
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    8 months ago

    “as fears grow over rising Islamophobia”

    Who exactly fears rising Islamophobia? And given the behavior of the “pro Palestine” people i think they can be glad to not be deported the same day they paint stars of David on the doors of Jews…

    We should fear the Islamists being as antisemitic as the Nazis.

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      8 months ago

      Most of us fear getting dragged into some colonial conflict we don’t really want to have anything to do with. I have no love for Hamas nor Israel. I feel for the regular people on both sides, maybe a bit more so the long suffering Palestinian civilians (while acknowledging neither side is entirely blameless.)

      But they’re intent on fighting each other. They’ve both been told by “God” that this land is theirs. There’s no rational way to resolve that.

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        8 months ago

        Yes, there is: split it. This nonsense has been going on long enough. Split it or nuke it from orbit.

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          8 months ago

          Israel doesn’t want to split. There are solutions, but none that both sides will accept.

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      8 months ago

      We should fear the Islamists being as antisemitic as the Nazis.

      Yes.

      Who exactly fears rising Islamophobia?

      Muslims that are not Islamists. And honestly everyone that likes a free society should fear rising hate against groups of people.

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      8 months ago

      How about having people on the train and in restaurants demand you to stand up and make space for them to sit?

      How about school children in a holiday camp having to flee under police protection in the middle of the night because the local nazi youth tried to raid their camp?

      How about terrorists murdering them openly in the street?

      How about having your right to demonstrate be taken away and you being threatend with deportation if you voice your opinion publicly. Especially with deportation to countries like Syria where as a refugee who fled to Europe you can expect to be tortured, murdered and dissappeared.

      All of these are the reality muslim people in countries like Germany, or people who are deemed to be muslims, which also affects arabic or arabic looking jews.

      The people most happy right now are the local Nazis, who would murder both muslims and jews if they could and are happy to fuel the fire.

      So in propping up the islamophobia and peddling to both the Nazis and to Israel in fear of being considered antisemitic, the politics in Germany and similiar countries are also propping up antisemitism.

      EDIT: Holy hell i didn’t expect there so many people having a problem with facing the real racism in the countries they live in. No wonder fascism is on the rise as the rest looks away. On the receiving end of this will be all minorities, doesn’t matter if jewish, muslim, LGBT, disabled or anything else people might take as a “reason” to discriminate against them.

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        8 months ago

        That is also the reality of many women in muslim countries. Whats your point?

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            8 months ago

            Yes? That is literally how war works. We kill you because you kill us otherwise. Are you also saying that Ukraine is the bad guys because they kill russians?

            • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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              8 months ago

              self defence in war against enemy fighters is very different from heinously killing someone without any actual danger to yourself.

              in the same wake killing a fighting soldier in a war is legitimate. killing a surrendering soldier is a war crime.

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                8 months ago

                It shouldnt be a surprise that yes, an intolerant society that doesnt even tolerate its own people isnt tolerated elsewhere much.

                • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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                  8 months ago

                  And by being accepting of women being harassed in the streets for not adhering to western clothing, for people being murdered at random while running their shops and paying taxes you show a great deal if a tolerant society…

                  The amount of projection and hipocricsy that runs through European racists like you is truly mindboggling.

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                    8 months ago

                    Ah funny, using the racist card for defending people being entirely intolerant and antisemitic. The irony.