• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Uh-oh, reddit also deleted a top comment for recommending Lemmy - are they Good or Evil? Binary thinker brains asplode!

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    To be clear: It wasn’t the behavior of X or Musk over the past year that caused this, when he was already clearly being a Nazi pushing Nazi propaganda, it was the Nazi Salute.

    I’m glad people are finally blocking X and I’ll take wins where we can get them, but this should have happened a long time ago.

    The behavior of X did not change after his salute, it was already operating as a Nazi platform. My opinion of Musk didn’t change after seeing his Nazi salute, I already knew he was a fascist supporting the fascist party. My only surprise was that he was already willing to say it louder for the people in the back that he’s a Nazi.

    It’s so frustrating that people are so unwilling to call fascists fascists until they go completely mask off. Musk can exhibit every Nazi behavior and people keep using X no problem, but it’s the fucking salute that gets them to finally block the platform.

    So do people hate Nazis because of what they stand for? Or do they just hate the Nazi salute? Because by all available information it’s the salute that might get someone in trouble, all the other behaviors get ignored or excused.

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      I didn’t think I was still capable of being shocked but the nazi salute at the president’s podium did actually shock me a little. They fuckers are not even trying to pretend any more. I would hope that this shit makes people avoid musk-related products like they’re a rabid rottweiler. I kinda feel bad for people who bought a Tesla years ago though. Also, spaceX has to be a national security issue now.

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        22 hours ago

        They fuckers are not even trying to pretend any more

        They’re still trying to pretend:

        Alternative explanations for the gesture are plausible. Musk is socially awkward, and he may have been stiffly trying to throw love to the crowd for helping put Trump back in office. “My heart goes out to you,” he said after he did the gesture a second time.

        https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-salute-reaction-right-wing-extremists-1235241866/

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          20 hours ago

          Rolling stone? That’s disappointing. Yeah I’ve seen similar shit in the media. But I’m thinking if it acts like a nazi and looks like a nazi it is probably a fuckin nazi. it’s pretty fuckin alarming, a lot of people died getting rid of them last time they gained power.

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          21 hours ago

          I see people trying to use the “but he has autism, he probably didn’t understand what he was doing!” Except those are the same people that will turn around and yell at a regular person with autism and say “shut up, it’s not an excuse!”

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            I’ve got autism and I’m not doing sieg heil even when I want to stop a taxi. Let alone on the main fuckin stage of the US with the world watching. Fuckin nazis back in power.

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      He’s financing AfD and has agreed with tweets that Jewish people are trying to dovide the white race. He’s as fascist as fascists can be.

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      Yeah, I’m not usually someone who’s anti-Reddit (in terms of the users, at least)…but the first sub I blocked was r/gaming, and the most negative users I ever interacted with were on r/AnimalCrossing and r/Nintendo.

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        I don’t understand how animal crossing players could be so negative lol

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          So, not saying I was necessarily the good guy here; it was from things like when I’d make pins about a low-effort post’s title, or poke fun at other low effort content (something like a picture of the game being played somewhere).

          I’m no stranger to downvotes or even sarcastic or rude replies – fair game! But this was the only sub I’d ever had people telling me to kill myself or that they hoped I’d die, lmao

          The juxtaposition was amusing more than offensive, and the mods did a good job of cleaning it up, but it was still something pretty unique to the Animal Crossing subreddit for me! Lol

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          15 hours ago

          The internet can sometimes be a trying place, where the biggest fans are also the biggest critics and can’t think critically beyond pure hate.

          I actually think federation will help this a bit, as breaking up fandoms into smaller better moderated pockets should help guide more civil discourse.

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          Nintendo subreddit would occasionally seem to have Nintendo supporters jump on someone who said something critical about Nintendo, and also anti-Nintendo people who’d jump on people who said positive things about consumer-unfriendly things (like enjoying the NSO emulated games).

          I also had a thread where people attacked me for being a pirate when I first got my Switch used because I was asking how to check if it was console-banned before linking my Nintendo account to it, lol

          As for Animal Crossing, I had multiple people tell me to kill myself (or that they hoped I die) when I made puns based on typos in low-effort post titles, or when I poked fun at posts whose only content was a picture of the game running on a Switch against a scenic background.

          I’m not saying I was necessarily the good guy there, and I don’t care about downvotes or sarcastic replies, but when people were negative in those subs, they were downright vicious, lol

          I was more shocked at the juxtaposition than actually offended, and the mods did a good job cleaning that stuff up when I reported it. But truthfully, the sub went downhill after the first year or two of ACNH. Probably when it went from mostly hardcore players to casuals, haha

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            Ugh. What is it with people acting like nazi’s when it comes to their interests? Like why can’t you enjoy something and be aware of its flaws? You criticize something even a little bit and people will call for your head and all this other psychotic toxicity. That’s shits been around since the original fandom of Star Trek TOS but you see it in every fandom out there. Why can’t people just be fucking normal and enjoy things in a healthy and positive way. Don’t get me wrong I think there’s more healthy engagements out there than toxic ones but there’s just so much of that in every fandom that it’s fucking crazy

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    They might be motivated by political views, fact checking, etc, but the subreddits I’ve seen discussing it (baseball, Iowa) are focusing on the fact that you need an account to see anything now. Screenshots from X would still be permitted; just not direct links due to the degree of interaction with the site required to view the material.

    It’s sound reasoning, in my opinion. X either links you to an actual source or is a short post easily captured in a screenshot.

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      It’s not totally insane reasoning but, like, people can just downvote links to Twitter if they want to, and/or use an extension to automatically redirect to a Nitter instance. The only people actually affected by censoring Twitter community-wide is those who would want to look at the context.

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          I think it’s way worse to keep information from someone who wants to see it, than to let it be seen by someone who would prefer not to see it but isn’t motivated enough to do something about it. Sort of by construction, actually - if the latter category really didn’t want to see Twitter links, they would have done it themselves.

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              …we’re talking about a ban of links to Twitter on a gaming subreddit. Those links would be to, like, game news. That’s not “fascist content”.

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                23 hours ago

                Fair, but the website still promotes it and requires you to log in to see the link contents, thus exposing you to the other content.

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        Elon did a live stream playing the new Path of Exile game. His character was one of the top 20 ranked in the game. He has bragged about being the best on several games. Anyway, it was obvious to everyone watching that he knew very little about how the game actually worked. He finally confessed this week that he pays other people play the character for him, but also claimed that all the top players do it.

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          Oh, right. Yeah, I saw that video, he (allegedly) didn’t know the basics of map navigation and wouldn’t pickup good drops.

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            The part that got me the most was when he was complaining about his gear (some of the very best gear in the game) “this helmet is only level 52, even though I’m level 96”. Those were equip levels, not power levels… One of his items he dismissed as not good was the one you get from the final boss. There’s no room for “allegedly” with that part.

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          I’m willing to believe that some of the top players might do it, but how many of them brag to the public about how highly they’re ranked and how good they are at the game while barely knowing how to play it?

          Let’s be real, who’s good enough at the game to be able to rank someone else’s account up to the top levels without themselves being at the top levels?