• snekerpimp@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    But renaming mountains and bodies of water are going to solve all of that, our orange god king told us so.

    /s if it’s not obvious

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      18 days ago

      It also isn’t free for people here, it’s paid. They pay you (not a very large amount but still) to go to any education above the mandatory education.

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          18 days ago

          There is an obsessed with going to university - yes education is excellent but to end up in so much debt at such a young age is awful.

          Especially the stoopid requirement for so many “entry” level corporate roles that demand a degree, despite the role never using any skills from that degree. Recruitment seems to think having a degree automatically means a person with a degree will be the best hire.

          And trades - they are overshadowed because having a degree seems to be a better route career wise.

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      19 days ago

      I think I understand your concern, but how do you very briefly describe what’s happening a better way?

      Schools in the US are “free”, although they are generally funded by taxes. I think if you said to most people that society benefits from a good basic education for everyone, they would agree.

      If you said that should apply to higher education, it doesn’t sound like too much of a stretch.

      If you then said “we should have the same standard of education and funding for the entire nation”, many people would say “No way”, because America, and that would mean centralized funding and standards and stuff. It’s always that last part.

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    18 days ago

    The world isn’t this black and white, so you can’t just compare things at a basic level like this

    For example the Netherlands has intuition fee’s for universities. It’s about 2500 euro per student per year. I’d much rather have it free, but it’s still nothing compared to the 50K or 100K some people pay for an American University

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    18 days ago

    Would you look at that, Brazil has all of those! The problem with UHC is that right wing politicians have been doing everything in their power to dismantle it ever since its inception.

    The previous govt (fucking bozo) was also keen on “isn’t it better to have some work and no rights, rather than having rights and no work?”

    Public universities, while being free, often can only be attended by the well off, since class times might be all over the week (Monday morning, Tuesday afternoon, Wednesday morning AND night), fucking anyone that needs to work to sustain themselves.

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    19 days ago

    It’s not strictly true collage or university as it’s know in the rest of the world, in the UK it’s only Scotland that gets free tuition, not the rest of us, higher education which is 16-18 is free

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      19 days ago

      In France, college is free only if you’re from a underpriviledged social class, and only for a limited time.

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        18 days ago

        I didn’t qualify as “boursier”, my tuition was around 400€/year through out bachlore and master degrees (école d’ingénieurs). It’s not so expensive. I still was able to claim 90€/month of help for housing (CAF). My friends who qualified paid 0€ for tuition, and they also got more for housing but I don’t remember how much. This was from 2011~2016.

        In south Germany today, a foreigner, who can’t claim any financial help, has to pay 3000~4000€/semester 1500€/semester.

        Still far far away from what education costs in USA from what I’ve heard.

        Edit: Corrected the price of tuition in Germany.

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              19 days ago

              Some have different tuition for if you’re in state or from out of state, so around 10K usually for in state and around 20K for out of state, but some are 30K to 60K for the fancier universities in my state.

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          I’m a foreigner without access to financial aid paying ~€400/semester in middle Germany for a master’s degree (bachelor’s is €100/semester less). Granted, I’m now married to a German, but I wasn’t when I started the program and the cost didn’t change when I got married.

          I would honestly shop around a little if I were you, other universities should be much cheaper. Unless you’re including rent, I guess.

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      19 days ago

      Came to say this. Most people in the UK have to pay tuition for university. There is a govt loan but you’re still paying it, plus interest

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        19 days ago

        Should be interest free. No reason for anyone to profit off higher education, other than the actual educators. Admin can suck a dick.

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    18 days ago

    Paid sick leave exists in some US states, for example vermont. It’s not a lot but it’s better than nothing.

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    18 days ago

    Australia could have been included here, the only missing one is free ‘college’ which is known as University here.

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      18 days ago

      The UK has both colleges and universities. Colleges are usually seen as “lesser”, usually with vocational style courses rather than purely academic learning.

      In England, college is free but university is not. In Scotland it’s all free up to a certain age. I’m not sure about Wales and Northern Ireland.

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        18 days ago

        Colleges ARE lesser, are they not? They provide a lower level of qualification and are usually attended at a younger age. I’ve been out of education for a while so happy to be corrected.

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          I find it hard to get the right word. I didn’t really like lesser because there’s a big implication in the UK that you’re a failure if you didn’t go to university and I think that’s total bullshit.

          Although you obviously can’t get a doctorate or a masters at a college there’s loads of worth while courses that can arguably translate much easier to workplace positions.

          There’s no point in getting a doctorate in english literature and then having to go work in Starbucks because there’s no jobs available in your field. Whereas you could study something like a national certificate in electrical engineering and have your pick of jobs/apprenticeships at the end of the course.

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            Yeah I get that. It’s kinda funny that they’re considered a lower tier because my A Levels were more stressful than ANYTHING in my bachelor’s or master’s, by far (and they’re both in what’s considered to be challenging subjects). The actual content of my Law A Level has been the most professionally and personally useful out of any other professional or academic qualification, and condensed into less time.

            So I take your point entirely.

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    18 days ago

    I get free healthcare, Free College, paid time off, paid sick leave, paid paternity leave… Lives in USA. But I’m employed, so I get those things.

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        18 days ago

        But the catch is that I was in the army. And did a tour in Afghanistan. 100% disabled as well.

        If I served my country and got all 5 of those things, why can’t the USA make it universal?

        No profit in that.

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                18 days ago

                I don’t like our president any more than his predecessor. Nor the replacement. Our government failed us.

                I served under Bush Jr, and then he extended our tour. So I’ve been mad at him ever since, along with his other decisions.

                Did I come out leftist? I went in right leaning and came out more centrist.

                To be honest.

                Glad your friend came back alive. Afghanistan sucked.