Even inside the Harris campaign, there was dissent about whether she needed to take a more aggressive stance for Gaza.

A Harris organizer who worked on youth turnout said that senior campaign officials gave them an order: When they sent out mass volunteer or fundraising emails and people replied by asking about Gaza, they were told to mark it as “no response.” The result? They seldom ended up engaging with voters on that issue.

“We also didn’t create a new category for Gaza responses out of fear that category would be leaked. Instead we were told to mark them as ‘no response,’” the organizer said, faulting top Harris campaign leaders for failing to address the issue. “The only ‘clowns’ out there are those who were in senior leadership and decided to abdicate on this issue, who silenced a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, and who told us to ignore it every time a voter asked us about Gaza.”

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    Yeah, great, both the undecided people are idiots with a idiot plan and the Harris campaign were idiots with an idiot plan.

    By your stupidity combined we get president neo-Nazi.

    Great job guys. Hit the showers and stubbornly not learn a good damn thing.

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        Yeah and continuing to sit out or voting Republicans will surely make the change you’re looking for happen.

        Just as long as you’re content with your decisions and accept that the reality of your consequences and that whatever happens going forward your actions helped cause it.

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          At one point you need to draw a red line in the sand and say I will not participate in the problem. A distinct lack of morality can be observed.

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            Good luck with that.

            Thanks but I’ll continue voting in every election, every primary, for every progressive despite how tiring and disappointing it can be and not throw away the progress made. Provided we can still do that after another four years.

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              Progress? What progress have you made?

              Your strategy only leads to regression. That much should be clear to anyone observing history for the last decades.

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                You don’t see progress so be it. I’m not about to tell you what you perceive, I’m not going to change your mind here. I’m glad to see that there’s even something called The Squad in congress but clearly you don’t. So feel free to continue to not vote, not make difference at all, make no progress.

                This is where we part ways on this conversation. Good luck with things going forward and the choices you made and will make and have a good day.

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      The “undecided” people were always decided. Decided against genocide, always were, always will be. You want them to learn … learn what, exactly?

      We all told Harris how to win and she refused to take our advice. Even now she can’t admit that she screwed up… Or maybe she actually believed her pro-genocide stance was a good one, and if so, good riddance.

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        Really, decided against genocide so they campaigned to let a neo Nazi win. That’s some solid reasoning there, maybe learn to not cut off your nose to spite your face.

        As for Harris, yeah, her and the Democrats should learn to listen to the people but if you seriously think she was pro-genocide, well there’s no point in even taking at that juncture.

        Either way, y’all made your choices, you cast your vote, you didn’t have to deal with Harris any more, good luck dealing with Trump and how receptive he and his administration will be.

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          As for Harris, yeah, her and the Democrats should learn to listen to the people but if you seriously think she was pro-genocide, well there’s no point in even taking at that juncture.

          If she wasn’t pro genocide, then it should’ve been easy for her to speak out against genocide, right?

          Either way, y’all made your choices, you cast your vote, you didn’t have to deal with Harris any more, good luck dealing with Trump and how receptive he and his administration will be.

          Again, how receptive was Harris? Clearly there was no choice when it came to genocide. If something as horrific as genocide is non-negotiable, what makes you think either political party cares to work for the people on any other heavily lobbied issue?

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              There was no choice for anyone. The situation was already getting worse and worse in Palestine and yet you think “trump is going to make it worse” was some sort of difference maker. You’re running the same disingenuous line that democrats do, which is when they’re in power they claim they’re working on it but also that it’s out of their hands, but when they’re out of power they blame voters. It’s apparently never the fault of democrats. You think after over a year of democrats doing jack and shit that somehow they’d do any better after getting reelected.

              Please don’t think you can fool anyone by claiming they were working towards a ceasefire when they were actively supplying billions in weapons during these “negotiations”. Do not think you can fool anyone by claiming that democrats were holding back israel by delaying just a single shipment of weapons while letting the rest through (which was already more than enough of what they needed to “get the job done”). There’s a saying about that and george bush, war criminal and dear friend of the democrats, put it so eloquently here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7FKfl3O2Y

              For the record, I voted for harris, but I’m not stupid enough to think she would’ve made any difference because she indicated as much on the campaign trail during a critical election. The campaign trail is when politicians make promises they don’t keep and yet she couldn’t even be bothered to lie about caring.