• assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    It must feel amazing to be held hostage by a ineffective political party that knows that if you don’t vote for them then the alternative will be much worse.

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      9 months ago

      It is amazing that some people think that Biden can snap his fingers and Israel jumps to attention. Israel is a country that attacked the USS Liberty! Biden didn’t start the conflict. People on both sides have died. You can’t stop trains, super tankers of countries on a dime. It would be nice, however if folks would actually try to understand what is being done and why. Hint: you won’t find in in the MSM or from Putin’s trolls. Then again, mindless online bitching is so much easier.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, you can’t just call up Israel, threaten US aid, and tell them to end hostilities: that only worked when Reagan and did it! And when HW Bush did it! /s

        I dont understand this idea that the US has no leverage when we are sending Israel billions of dollars. Without US resupply, several crucial Israeli military systems would be forced to shut down.

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          9 months ago

          So, we’ve already given them all the means and any call for action is “shutting down crucial military systems” aka leaving them vulnerable in a hostile region?

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            9 months ago

            “If you dont stop the genocide then we will stop arming your soldiers” sounds reasonable to me.

            If Israel is left vulnerable in a hostile region, it will be because of their own actions.

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                9 months ago

                And not all Gazans are Hamas, but the death toll is over 30k and people are starting to starve to death.

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                    9 months ago

                    Did German citizens in the 1940s deserve what was coming to them?

                    Perhaps not, or at least certainly not all of them. And yet Hitler was lawfully elected, which means many of them voted for him. Netanyahu and Likud were also lawfully elected.

                    The question is, what responsibility do voters in a democracy hold for the actions of their democratically elected government? If fair and lawful elections are held, and the voters elect a government that enacts genocide, are those voters liable? Historically the answer to that question has been no. But is that the correct answer? If so, then should American Trump voters also be held liable for his national crimes? What about voters for George W. Bush?

                    Perhaps greater responsibility would cause the world’s voters to be more selective in whom they support.