• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Dems really underestimate what life is like for normal Americans. trump doesn’t get it either obviously, but at least he acknowledges shit is bad for them.

    If Biden tries to run in the economy it’s going to hurt him because all the money is going to the wealthy.

    Bernie acknowledges and actually has a plan to fix shit. And unlike trump points the finger at whose fault it is.

    trump can’t compete with that.

    But neoliberals don’t want to really address wealth inequality either.

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        9 months ago

        Biden is the only thing standing between democracy and fascism in the US. Hate it all you want,but that is the reality at the moment.

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          9 months ago

          Biden isn’t standing between anything…he’s a speed bump. We still lost our reproductive rights, Trump’s tax cuts are still in place, we are still sending money to Israel and not the Ukraine.

          Biden sucks. Don’t vote for Trump…but god it’s fucking depressing that the only alternative is a guy with Alzheimer’s and a meme army for political clout.

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            9 months ago

            You lost your reproductive rights because a bunch of Sanders bros decided they’d rather let Trump win than vote for Hillary.

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              9 months ago

              Am I the only one that remembers the DNC was sued over that…and Sanders won?

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          9 months ago

          Please stop being so dramatic, you shouldn’t be afraid to talk to other people about their political opinions.

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            9 months ago

            It’s not fear, it’s that no one wants to read the same half assed logic that boils down to actively supporting efforts of conservatives to put Trump back in power. This shit strategy is getting old.

            The winner of the 2024 general election for POTUS will be Donald Trump or Joe Biden. In a FPTP system any eligible vote not cast for Joe Biden is supporting Donald Trump, a member of the minority party. This is math. You are going to support one of these candidates if you’re eligible to vote. It is mathematically impossible to sit out and not have influence.

            Not a single one of the commenters trying to depress Democratic votes has provided a single alternative argument to these facts. It’s not a real argument. It’s just trying to create apathy so conservatives can gain more power.

            You can talk about Democratic principles all day long, voting is a strategic play. And if you were actually trying to defend Democratic principles you would take the action that results in the least harm, which is Joe Biden, not Donald Trump.

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              9 months ago

              You are discussing strategy to avoid the most harm. Harm avoidance. That’s fear. You are literally describing fear without using the word fear and acting like I was the one misunderstanding. You need to understand that you are acting on fear. It’s ridiculous, and I was right to point it out.

              You mentioned my other comment in passing like it meant nothing to you, then say that no one hear has given any real arguments? Maybe you just need to read in better faith. You clearly don’t have any respect for my concerns with Biden if your comment demonstrates a complete unwillingness to even entertain the thought.

              Canadian btw, you don’t need to convince of anything to do with voting strategy anyway. Wasted energy. I just think you guys are being really silly and can’t see the forest from the trees. You could probably use third party observers to get your heads on straight.

              • MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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                9 months ago

                Zero interest in trying to convince you of anything. I just want everyone else to understand that listening to you acts against their own interests. Either you don’t understand how our electoral system works, or you’re misleading people to try and put your thumb on the scale in support of some pretty horrible people.

                Waiting anytime for an explanation of how Trump getting elected benefits the situation in Gaza btw. Or do we not care about that now because that would be acting out of fear?