Not the Vidiians? Those people harvesters were terrible. They didn’t care who they violated.
Kinda like Rick Berman.
What if everything in the Star Trek universe was just one grand holodeck simulation and everything we’ve seen them go through in all the shows, all the movies, all the animations and all the books were just a runaway holodeck program that some junior officer made.
And it turns out the actual Star Trek universe is a lonely empty experience as their ships go wandering around nearby star systems and haven’t met any other species yet. It’s just a boring repetitive experience that leaves everyone feeling a deep sense of Galactic loneliness as it will take them many centuries of exploration before they eventually meet another species … and also a species that is not humanoid or familiar to us at all.
Ah, so “realistic” space travel, where 100 years later, they’re still on their way to the first Star system and the most critical technology is how to pass the time
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Ok…wait, hear me out
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what if that’s how Discovery ends?
It wouldn’t be the worst story-ending on the show…
oooo, toss up between Rick Berman and Lens Flare.
I don’t know how exploding consoles didn’t make the list, but they would be a distant second to Rick Berman.
I came here to say this. I get that they use fucking plasma in their electrical systems, but you’d think some step-down transformers and circuit breakers could be installed. And why the hell do the defense systems feed back into the main power grid? Why isn’t there a capacitor bank to dump feedback into for reuse in the weapons or something?
I saw someone say a good reason for the consoles exploding all the time is that they wouldn’t have I clouded breakers, because, in a red alert situation, the console staying on and responsive is more important than it not exploding
Pretty sure the real reason is because it looks spectacular on TV.
Where can I read all the dirt about Berman? I’m sure I’ve heard it in the past but now I can’t remember the details of why he’s hated so much.
I’ve got a video but not sure about a text place.
The basics are hatred of women and having their characters raped, a misunderstanding of Trek leading to some awful storylines and characters (and Enterprise, as it was almost entirely his baby), he had zero TV experience save for a kids show, he was impossible to work with, he shot down stories for little to no reason, he was a bigoted piece of shit, he micro managed everything to fuck, he HATED gay representation and repeatedly shut it down, the show runner of DS9 had to actively lie to him to get the show made, he was an awful writer but insisted on writing anyway, he was toxic management type to the point of forcing names off of scripts and putting his own name on, pushed people to their breaking points, interfered repeatedly with everything in front of him to the point you can SEE the interference in certain episodes and was a particular cunt with contract negotiations.
That’s not remotely all of it.
The correct answer to the post is that he is the villain.
If Gene is the great bird of the galaxy then Rick Berman is the Great Botfly.
Why doesn’t species 8472 get villain love?
I wouldn’t call them a villain, personally. They were a species trying to slap the Borg back home and became aware of our space. They saw us working with the Borg and started to prep for an invasion of Earth. But after diplomatic relations with Starfleet they realize that Earth may pose some threat but had ZERO interest in starting a war with any species, much less a species they’d never even heard of before.
Borg for me.
I wonder if there’s any psychology behind responses to this question… While I genuinely love the idea of becoming a cyborg, the thought of becoming part of a collective that thinks as one is kinda horrifying to me as someone who works in a creative field.
Who did the Borg assimilate before they met the humans? Every Borg looks like an assimilated human.
Every sentient species looks like a human into body modification.
And yeah, there is a storyline about all sentient species being related.
It’s something that really winds me up about scifi shows, and I know there are always budget restrictions… but it just feels really lazy to me, for aliens to be simply humans with plasticine on their foreheads.
I’m reading one of Iain M. Banks’ ‘Culture’ series of hard scifi books, the depth and variety of not just alien species but ‘post-human’ modification is breathtaking. ‘The Culture’ is a far-flung hyper-technological society, no money, all wants and needs provided for, there are no drugs because everyone has their own drug gland. If you decide you want to try changing sex, off you go, the nanosuite will take care of it within a matter of days. Sick of being a humaniform? No problem, now you’re the bush-like bundle of tendrils of your dreams. Bored with being a bush? Maybe you want to download your consciousness into a drone, or the solar sail drive of a starship? Again, no problemo!
Hyperion explored that a bit. An incredibly wealthy character in the book makes himself into a Satyr. We are Legion (We are Bob) also has some really fun stuff with android host machines. The Bobs can be anything they want to be. The movie Arrival did an amazing job depicting non-humanoid aliens. But yes, most sci-fi is very lazy with the aliens.
For some reason, I only got the alert for your reply today!
I adore the Hyperion Cantos, it’s one of my favourite scifi book series ever, and I hope one day it gets the TV treatment it deserves. Always felt it would make an amazing show.
Yeah man, some of the coolest concepts I’ve ever read were in that series. The crusader’s ship that fucking demolishes their bodies from hyper acceleration and then rebuilds them during flight, all without their knowledge, was wild! My biggest fear about it being a series is that idk if there’s a way to create the Shrike in a live action recreation without making it look cheesy. The Shrike definitely benefits from the fogginess in the theater of the mind.
Yeah they’d have to do a LOT of R&D to make sure the Shrike looks suitably terrifying. The speed of it wouldn’t be a problem, they could get all the people who worked on The Flash!
I’ve been pleasantly surprised with TV versions of late. I didn’t watch Foundation until S02 dropped, I just saw no way they could do a show set over aeons. They’ve taken a lot of artistic license and I’ve heard from many who loved the books saying they’re unhappy with that, but I really enjoyed it. Three Body Problem season one was also fantastic, so fingers crossed that gets a second season (apparently it was very expensive to make so S01 may be all we get unfortunately).
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED (but only if you are bipedal)
It’s not JJ Abrams?
Pretty sure that’s the lens flares.
I feel like that’s letting JJ off the hook
We can’t have that after what he did to both franchises can we? Maybe we can find out what he drives and hide a large dead fish in his hub cap? It’s about to be warmer weather in Hollywood and all!
I’ve always thought this take was unimaginably short sighted and just… Dumb.
I liked the sequels (generally) but see why people don’t like them. See why people say that they ruined Star Wars. Again, I don’t agree but I see the point. It was a continuation of the story and did whatever.
JJ made an alternate universe for Trek though. Literally the only bits of canon he added to Trek was that the Romulan star went Supernova and Spock prime was flung into the alt timeline in an attempt to help save the Romulans. That’s it.
People keep saying JJ ruined Trek but the dude did literally nothing other than make an alternate universe. Trek was still untouched. Spocks attempt to save Romulus is even super in line with Spocks character after Unification II as well.
JJ may have “ruined” Star Wars but the only thing he did to Trek was make a couple movies people didn’t like (that can be COMPLETELY ignored) and reinvigorate life back into a franchise that had been shelved.