President Joe Biden could make a decision within days whether to remain a candidate for reelection, said Hawaii’s governor who participated in a recent meeting with Biden and other Democratic governors and whose family has known the president for years.

And if Biden decides not to run, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green told The Associated Press on Saturday that he believes the president will designate Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him on the ticket.

Green, who was a physician on Hawaii’s Big Island before he was elected governor, said everyone has parents or grandparents who have moments that aren’t that great or pauses in their ability to express themselves clearly. But, he added, they aren’t discarded because of their experience, wisdom and their role in the family.

Green was quick to point out that Trump is only three years younger than Biden and both will have bad days going forward. But he argued that temperament is more important than age.

“For God’s sake, these two guys have to hold the nuclear codes,” Green said. “I don’t want someone who tweets in the middle of the night and rages at other countries. That is not good. That’s not the problem we have with President Biden.”

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    We don’t have to prepare for it, it’s already happening, at least on Lemmy.

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      have y’all ever been racially profiled while driving, got pulled over, and had your stuff thrown in the mud?

      since it was a terry stop the judge considered 100% on board even with video proof

      prosecutor as president is the last thing this country needs

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          With a four month campaign runway, no less. I’ve been asking that since the debate. Calling for him to step aside without a better candidate is just reactionary sensationalism. Show me credible and sizable polls that take Trump by a landslide and I’ll be calling for him to step aside too. Until then, this intermittently confused old man did a lot better with his four years than Trump.

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            Agree, and the media jumped on this bandwagon, because he is promising to tax the rich.

            This was something that they did not expect of centrist Joe to do.

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              He’s taxing corporations and reducing wealth for their shareholders too.

              Increasing the corporate minimum tax rate to 21% to align with the global minimum tax rate. Implementing a Billionaire Minimum Tax of 25% on the wealthiest taxpayers to ensure the top 0.01 percent pay taxes on their income as they go, just like everyone who earns a paycheck.

              Raising the tax rate on corporate stock buybacks from 1% to 4% to reduce the differential tax treatment between buybacks and dividends and encourage businesses to reinvest profits in their workers and in the company’s growth.

              Denying corporate tax deductions for employee compensation in excess of $1 million paid to any employee by both publicly and privately owned C corporations.

              https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2169

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            Most people just don’t know that much about Kamala, she’s fairly new to politics and hasn’t been in the limelight very often.

            Usually just a small handful of speeches and interviews, maybe. She’s largely an unknown though. A Presidential race would change that quickly, though its hard to predict exactly how.

            Notably, the right has used her largely unknown status to smear her for years now, not too different from how they got an early start smearing Hilary.

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              That’s my point. Four months is not enough time to get through all of the mud-slinging and come out with a clear impression of a candidate. The candidate and their policies would have to already be well known by US citizens to ensure a win in that time. She’d have a much better chance campaigning in 2028 with a longer runway.

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                Just FYI, ye crazy Americans, in other parts of the world four months is longer than the entire campaign season.

                Four months is more than enough time to familiarize yourself to the electorate.

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                  Yes, it’s plenty with properly conditioned citizens that take it upon themselves to be informed. That’s not the current state of the US.

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                    Do you consider yourself properly informed because it seems like you just blindly support whomever the party leaders tell you to support.

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                I’m not sure I agree, I think 4 months is enough time. It would hinge on her though, and how effectively she can be genuine and communicate.

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                    There are exceptions to that, anything fairly novel will drive a spike in interest, and answer-seeking behavior. I’m really on the fence with this one.

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                    That’s one reason I think she’s an awful replacement pick. She’s definitely a better candidate than Biden but I’m uncertain if she could actually win the election.

                    I don’t want to replace a probable loser with a possible loser - this maneuver is dangerous and we should make sure it’s being used for someone who is actually capable of winning.

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            So your plan is to ignore all the valid criticism until it’s too late to do anything about it and then when Biden loses you’ll blame the people who’d been warning you about it for years?

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              Who’s ignoring criticism? I’m saying calling for him to step aside without a replacement who would do better is not constructive. They should be poll testing candidates and proposing a candidate that could do better. Criticism without suggestions for improvement is just whining.

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              the republican party has ignored valid criticism of trump for 8 years. unlike biden, trump’s valid criticism is far more serious than biden looking and sounding old for one night.

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          Whitmer, Whitehouse, Buttigieg - those are all better options than Harris. Sanders is unlikely to be accepted but would definitely do it if asked.

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            What makes you think any of them want to run for president when they didn’t even take part in the primaries?

            Also, why do you assume Sanders would do it when asked? He’s 82. He’s a lot sharper than Biden, but he’s still 82. His energy is going to be limited. I would be very surprised if he even sought re-election to the Senate at this point. He probably wants to spend his last years with his grandkids in Vermont (or wherever they live), not arguing with people in D.C. And I’d say he deserves that happy end to his life rather than spend what may be his last four years dealing with a bunch of hostile bullshit.

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              I assume Sanders would because he’s willing to do another term as a Senator and he’s, philosophically, a public servant.

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                There is absolutely no reason to assume an 82-year-old man would be willing to be president. It is a lot more work than Senator. And I personally think he deserves to say no if he doesn’t want to. It sort of sounds like you don’t.

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                  I don’t know if you’ve ever met Sanders in person but if you asked him and he wanted to say no you can bet your ass he’d decline without hesitation.

                  Senator is usually a much more cushy job than president but Sanders puts a lot of effort into being a senator. He’d certainly put more effort into being a president but I think he’d get a lot out of it.

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                    I’m sure he would decline without hesitation. And that was my point- we have no idea whether or not he’d say yes.

                    But some people here seem to think that’s a horrible thing to say.

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          great question that do not have an answer to

          but there are people in worst shoes than mine and a lot of them

          not sure they are going to jump as easily on the Prosecutor Harris train given her political background

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            A Black woman with a prosecutorial history is nowhere near as dangerous as the orange asshole is.

            I think you overestimate how damaging that would be for her chances.

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            If you don’t have an answer to stopping Trump and other people do but you’re telling them not to do it, thanks for proving my point.

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            I think beyond a few very liberals (like myself), a law and order message will do well with voters. Even Oregon recently voted for stricter drug laws. What makes you think such a message won’t do well nationally?

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          Definitely not Kamala fucking Harris, the most hated VP in decades. That would be guaranteeing a loss.

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            Definitely not Kamala fucking Harris, the most hated VP in decades.

            Say what, now? All this tells me is you’re too young to remember Dick Cheney, or the other guy who failed the spelling bee. (In fairness, though, Quayle wasn’t so much hated as he was ignored, like your little brother.)

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            Really? The most hated in decades? The only good thing I can say about Pence is that he finally decided to speak against Trump after the insurrection.

            He’s such a piece of Christian Nationalist trash he attracts flies.

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              This is the question that everyone saying Biden should drop out can’t seem to answer.

              I don’t like our choices here either, but I’m not so foolish as to think having the party choose another candidate for us is gonna save us.

              This is the party that consistently won’t listen to its own voter base and keeps putting up unpalatable centrists like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris.

              People think the party that keeps snatching defeat from the jaws of victory will somehow make a good choice this late in the game? As if.

              Also, who is really going to be happy with the party choosing for us anyway? The best they could give would to be allow delegates to choose a new candidate at the convention but delegates are not regular voters, they are party apparatchiks. They will only choose another bland centrist corporate-friendly Democrat, like always. It’s a big club and we ain’t in it etc. There is no progressive lightning rod that will excite ALL Democrat voters waiting in the wings. There just isn’t and we need to stop pretending there is.

              Biden is who we have, and we can accept it, even if we don’t like it or we can accept that this is our last real “free” election ever.

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                He was given answers and decided to move the goal posts onto something else. If Trump gets elected again, the blame is going to fall on party leadership and the sycophants who blindly support them.

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        No one’s saying this isn’t a problem. You just have to vote blue, because the alternative is you get thrown in the mud, and then shot.

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          I’d prefer that if we’re swapping candidates we don’t swap to yet another deeply damaged one who might also lose the election.