• Ledivin@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    What’s Concord? I’ve literally never heard of this before

    Spoiler: if you don’t advertise at all, people won’t play your game

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      Its an enormously overproduced Overwatch clone with zany characters that seem to be going for Guardians of the Galaxy, an art style that is basically just bizarre, and gameplay from a decade ago.

      Sony wanted their own Overwatch, after seeing its success, then spent a huge amount of time and money developing it, and this is what they came up with.

      Oh, right, it isn’t free to play, costs 40 bucks, and then also has an astounding amount of microtransactions.

      EDIT: Based off of current active player count, Concord has cost approximately $200,000 dollars per active player to produce.

      Better hope they are all omega class hyper whale spenders, I guess.

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        I just watched the trailer because I wanted to understand your comment. I definitely see the zaniness and Guardians of the Galaxy vibes. I always thought Overwatch was bizarre (but that’s just me) but this is clearly more.

        However, as someone that doesn’t play shooters, could you develop more on what defines a gameplay from a decade ago? I wonder what can change that much in that kind of game.

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          24 days ago

          I think they’re just saying that hero shooters are a genre that saw a big boom around when overwatch came out but are now no longer trending.

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      It’s a new game in which you play two folk musicians from New Zealand. You start off in a small NY apartment trying to get gigs and establish a relationship with an official at the local New Zealand consulate who later becomes your band manager.

      It cost $4-billion dollars to develop, utilizes the F-14 Tomcat game engine from GameBoy Advance, and is expected to generate tens of dollars of revenue for Sony Corp.

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      Yeah, hadn’t heard about it until today either. But Steam also kind of torpedoed their launch by lifting their NDA for Deadlock on the same day. Not sure how similar they are, but that’ll grab most of the attention from gamers right now.

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        26 days ago

        Both have heroes and are shooters, but the similarities end here, but you’re overall right. From what I’ve seen of concord, it’s just valorant with a mediocre twist, whereas deadlock has been my go-to game for the last week.

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            Yeah valorant is basically counterstrike with heroes, concord is overwatch but somehow even more boring.

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      26 days ago

      I’ve seen ads on random apps. But the logo looks like a '90s PC software logo. And nothing showed what the game actually looked like.

      The clips they’ve shown look like the fake video games that you see in an advertisement for a specialized university.

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      26 days ago

      The marketing has been appalling. They’ve mainly focussed their intentions on PS5, but why release a game on a platform but not advertise it for that platform?

      Maybe word-of-mouth about the game and some discounts might improve things over the coming months, but Sony have made a bit of a mess with the PC side of this.

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      25 days ago

      I think Valve would disagree.

      ~60k players on Deadlock yesterday, ~100k today. Probably more tomorrow. It’s still in playtest.

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          It’s really good if you are into moba-type gameplay.

          Some people will compare it to something like overwatch, but it’s really closer to Dota 2 with shooter combat. It’s a cool mix of map-control/strategic elements of Dota with more twitchy aspects of arena-ish shooters.

          I’ve really enjoyed it, but then again my two most played games of all time are dota and tf2.

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          As someone who’s enjoyed league and Overwatch for years, I like it.

          I mean, the inherent annoying thing in moba is the farming, but aside from that.

          Smite 1 I used to play a bit and it’s reminiscent, but much better. The movement feels good.

          There are threads which are sharing game invites to the playtest. And technically I can invite people too

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          It’s a more MOBA-y Overwatch. If you like Overwatch, you will probably enjoy it. If you don’t, there’s still a chance but it’s not super likely.

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      26 days ago

      they showed it off at the May 30th state of play, and thats about it for advertising. if you were a pc player and didnt watch sonys presentation, you likely would have never known

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        What is a “state of play”? When googling a 2009 movie of that name seems to feature prominently on the results page.

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          state of play is sony’s counterpart to “Nintendo Direct”. With the death of E3, all major companies have their own showcase of shows digitally, while some of them will just announce it in the general show (Geoff’s Summer Game fest, the “generic e3 show”)

          basically Sony if showing off their own games, has 2 shows:

          State of Play is sonys version of, includes 3rd party companies producing content on playstation

          Sony also has a different showcase called “Playstation Showcase” thats directed specifically to 1st party stuff

          just for completion sake, Microsoft’s game info show is called “Xbox Game Showcase”

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      I only ever saw one ad for the game, on my PlayStation, the day before it came out and even then I couldn’t tell what it was. Is this a game? A movie? A TV show? The trailer fucking sucked at actually advertising what it was. No gameplay, no mention that it even was a game. It just seemed like a scene from an animated show for tweens.

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      I saw a few adverts for it on Facebook sp they definitely did advertise but people where turned off as soon as they found put it was a FPS

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      This is one of the problems of growing up in a different age. This was advertised, but are you any of the places they promoted it? It was the main game in a state of play, they bought ad space on steam, and I assume it was advertised elsewhere where I wouldn’t have seen it. But not everybody is watching TV anymore, and we are on Lemmy. Probably not the best place to judge what’s being advertised to the masses lol.

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        I watch plenty of streamers (about half of which play shooters), my primary gaming platform is Steam, and I do watch a small amount of TV, where other games have been advertised during this time. If they used those platforms for advertising, they didn’t do it well. You got me on the State of Play tho

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    I was watching a livestream of this game’s reveal trailer. The chat was excited at first during the cinematic trailer. Sure, it looked like a Malt-O-Meal Guardians of the Galaxy, but it still looked like it could be fun. Then as soon as they said “5 v 5 live service game” there was a giant, collective “oh nevermind lol” from the chat.

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      From what i saw from the game it just looked super bland and boring. No one looked interesting at all, it didn’t pop, if someone told me it was a passion project from a 3 man dev team i would’ve totally believed it.

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    There are too many games of this sort. Nobody wants to play them because you have to devote your life to grinding and getting good if you want to be play well.

    We need some new ideas and you don’t need to bet the company on every game. Instead of pouring millions of dollars into a clone of existing games, develop several smaller more innovative games and see which ones succeed. For every Concord there is a Stardew Valley, Vampire Survivors, or Among Us.

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      Sony did a good job of killing PC players tolerance of their bullshit with the helldiver controversy.

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          Back in mar-may it was. Then it was getting 300k users daily with 450k peak players. Now it gets under 30k daily users and ranked 45 on daily players according to steamdb

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            I mean, 30k daily users and 45th most popular on Steam isn’t something to sneeze at. There was going to be a drop regardless so staying that popular is pretty good.

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              You are right that 45 is still pretty decent all things considered. My mentality on it is: if they didn’t piss off the player base with broken update after broken update AND didn’t have the PSN fiasco AND didn’t constantly nerf every decent weapon, then the player would have naturally declined but it wouldn’t have been near as fast and I think they could have landed in a top 15-30 spot instead.

              Of course no one actually knows but all of my group of 8ish people playing stopped a month after we bought the game for one of the above reasons.

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          Sony force PlayStation accounts for Helldivers. And it dropped support for like 130 other countries. So the player base tanked. It wasn’t people leaving. It was people soft locked out of the game.

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    I never heard of it and searching for it on Steam doesn’t give any results so I’m guessing it’s not even available here.

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    Like the Borderlands movie I’m not really sure who this game is for with the price tag they are asking for it with the f2p options available.

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        I don’t know why they keep insisting on live service with an upfront cost. The only way these games are successful is by having a fuckton of teenagers with no money to fill the lobbies and make it feel lively and worthwhile. The minute you add an initial cost, there’s just not enough of a player base to support a game with microtransactions.

        I’m not a business genius, but they don’t have to learn from me. There is the very clear precedent of Kill the justice league that they’re choosing to ignore!

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          Kill the Justice League is playable solo and debuted at a peak concurrent user count that was higher than Concord’s by two orders of magnitude.

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    never heard of it. also I don’t have a PlayStation account and I’m not willing to make one to play one game.

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    PlayStation what? Did they announce this thing at the last state of play?

    I always watch those, but I’m pretty sure I’ve never heard of this…

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    As expected. The fact that this game wasn’t marketed well or even that it is a hero shooter are not its only problems. Game has other issues and that’s why people don’t play it.

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    I’ve been playing on PS5, getting games quickly and having a lot of fun with it.

    If it doesn’t last long, I’ll still get my £35 worth.