• Rooty@lemmy.world
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    I don’t get Ska hatred. It’s fast, punky dance music for alternative clubs, you have to go out of your way to be exposed to it. It’s not like its being continually replayed on “Billboard’s top 20 hits” radio stations.

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      Also, it’s older than Rock and Roll. It’s from a time when big sound meant more band members, but the current music ecomony doesn’t seem well suited to supporting acts with lots of members. I long for asignificant fourth wave ska revival.

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      Eh, kids shows are full of Ska, which makes total sense because it is impossible not to feel happy and excited when you hear it.

      So if you have kids, you’re probably exposed to more Ska music than you realize.

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        When do these kids start watching these shows and what shows are they? I’m asking my 1 yr old, but she won’t give me an answer lol.

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          Tbh the list of kids shows without ska would be shorter. It’s constantly used in scene transitions or just moments meant to be exciting, but some shows just straight up have Ska intro songs, like Phineas and Ferb. Hell, Scooby Doo had an entire episode about an undead ska band called Rude Boy and the Ska-tastics.

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          The ska band The Aquabats had a kid’s show in 2012-2014. Not sure about what age their audience is/was. I was actually into them when I was in high school before they got a show. Their music is really goofy and fun.

          Edit: Oh wait, are you trying to avoid it?? 😂

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      True, but so is pineapple pizza, I think OPs point still stands. I like pineapple pizza AND Ska.

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    Although pineapple isn’t my go to for pizza toppings, I always feel those who make comments like this have never actually tried it 🤷

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      I used to think pineapple on pizza was weird. “Fruit doesn’t belong on pizza!” I would say.

      I was also 5 years old at the time and dumb as a brick. And had no idea what I was missing. Pineapple on pizza is so good

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        It’s weird because I’m pretty much okay with either. Like it’s usually not the best thing on earth but definitely not bad either. Sometimes I’m in the mood for it and sometimes not. But maybe for others it is “polarizing.” Some people are picky :(

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      Everyone’s entitled to their opinions, and it’s all good. I absolutely love pineapple, just not on pizza. Hawaiian pizza is my wife’s jam, while I’m a pepperoni and mushroom guy, so luckily a smart individual once upon a time invented 1/2+1/2 pizzas.

      Now ska music? My absolute favorite.

  • gargantuanprism@lemmygrad.ml
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    The best way I’ve ever heard third wave ska described was something like “the music that plays when your mom tells you she just made you and your friends mozzarella sticks”

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    In High school I had a crush on a girl that loved ska.

    I had to pretend to love ska in order to share headphones with her on the bus…

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    Wait… there are people who hate ska?

    Why? For that matter, how? What’s to hate?

    Granted, I’m GenX, so my concept of ska is rooted in the 80s, but I can’t imagine that it’s changed much since then.

    Wait a minute… is this one of those deals where it’s trendy in some peer group to broadcast a hatred for something? Like anyone who wants to hang with the cool kids has to verify that they too hate ska?

    Which would be sort of like pineapple on pizza now that I think about it, so might well be the whole point here…

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      For the record, I actually like ska., But as Propaghandi said:

      Ska sucks

      Ska revival isn’t cool you stupid fuck

      The bands are only in it for the bucks

      And if you don’t believe me you’re a schmuck

      But the trend will die out with any luck

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          Probably a bit of that, a bit of friendly taking the shit out of other bands, and a bit of a song taken too seriously by both punk and ska fans. And remember, the song Ska Sucks is a ska song.

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    I admittedly know nothing about Ska, and music genres more generally, and whatever little searching I did upon reading this post have given me nothing that I can digest.

    However, I’ve read a discussion about hate for ska coming from cultural appropriation and being liked by teenage boys. Can someone walk me through this?

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      Ska is simple, fun music that cares little for anything other than being fun, and is often gleefully immature. As such, teenage boys like it and pretentious music snobs love to look down their noses at it. Ska bands are aware of this fact and tend to lean into it, creating a self-aware and often self-parodying genre. It can be argued that it’s not “good” music. But it is, without a doubt, fun and high energy music and a live ska show is a blast.

      As far as cultural appropriation goes, nobody who matters cares, as all music is a collaborative effort that builds off of previous works. Music belongs to the world, and gatekeeping it as belonging to any particular culture is ridiculous. Ska in particular is a genre that loves to do covers, and often the sillier the better.

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        As a testament to the ‘having fun’ part, one of the most well known ska bands in recent time, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones, have a member who is a dancer. He’s been with them since their inception and tours with them. You’ll see him on most live performances. His name is Ben Carr.

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        Thank you. To be quite honest, I’ve had a roommate once who loved reggae and ska, and even though I don’t know the names of the songs nor the artists, I kinda like the entire vibe of it. Not that I’d want to listen to it all day though, but a bit of it in a day’s listening makes my day a bit brighter, if that even makes sense.

        I might have been guilty of wrongfully associating ska with reggae though, and to be fair, I couldn’t even distinguish one from the other.

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          The best way I can describe it is that reggae is a walking beat, rocksteady is a jogging beat, and ska is a running beat.

          (I like pineapple on pizza and ska)

          • megane-kun@lemm.ee
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            Whoa! Dude, lol! Now I kinda want to hear reggae sped up to a ska-like BPM, and ska slowed down to a relaxing reggae-like BPM.

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              Listen to “Overcome (the Recapitulation)” by RX Bandits, may scratch that itch.

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                  One of my favourite bands back in the day. They had an amazing evolution from a generic ska band to a prog type act over their fifteen year odd career.

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        Ska is simple, fun music that cares little for anything other than being fun, and is often gleefully immature.

        Ska, as youngsters know it today, was reinvented by the 2-Tone movement in the UK (specifically Coventry) in the late 70s. The scene was overtly political and as @NuPNuA has stated was a deliberately multicultural movement, hence the name.

        If you want to hear some original ska from Jamaica then have a look for songs by Prince Buster but beware you will find some historical attitudes.

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      A lot of the early ska-punk crossover acts in Britain had people of west Indian origin in them, so if anything it was a victory for multiculturalism rather than cultural appropriation. I’ve never heard a west Indian moan about white ska acts either.

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      If we want to get technical, all rock and roll, rap, ska, punk, etc are cultural appropriation. Most modern music comes from black cultural music genres first.

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    Ska actually predates the Hawaiian pizza so thos should be the other way around.

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      But pizza predates Ska and pineapples predates music.

      Edit: now that I think about, I don’t know if any of that is true.