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    Meanwhile, everybody will continue to refuse to leave the platform, further showing Elon that there is no price too high for people.

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    Sacre bleu! It’s almost like the free speech warrior does not know that the other aspect of free speech besides speaking freely is being able to choose whom to listen to! Does he think free speech means being forced to listen to specific people speak?

    Surprised. Pikachu. Face.

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    Why the fuck does elon want to remove the block button on twitter like WHY???

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      Otherwise how the bullies can continue to belittle the victim behind their backs?

      Switching to throwaway accounts is boring

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        Pretty sure you already can’t block him specifically, I’m not on Xitter but have heard from several people this is the case.

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          A friend has told me you can block Elon but his tweets still appear on your timeline as if you haven’t. He still uses Twitter and the only way he manages it is by blocking every blue check. He has 28,000 blocked accounts now…

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        That was the one action I took on Twitter after creating an account before my account got banned.

        I needed to create an account to check a local source for updates. So I did. I also decided to look around on Twitter to see what I was “missing”. Saw a bunch of Musk stuff and instantly knew I didn’t want to see any of it. So I blocked him.

        In a few weeks, when I clicked a Twitter link, it said my account had been banned for suspicious activity. It had a secure password and this was its second log-in ever (no posts, comments, reactions, etc).

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    Remember to contact your political representative and express your concerns on any public organization account having an account on twitter. Also contact any journali of a media you use to read/watch and express the same concern.

    Once politics and journalists get out of twitter is game over.

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      I agree that X is enemy territory now, but in a world where billionaires can buy up all the major means of communication, it doesn’t feel like enough to just close up our accounts and move on. They can follow us wherever our accounts go and buy platforms out from under us. Lemmy and Mastodon are slightly better as open decentralized platforms, but they still could be attacked by Musk if he had the initiative to.

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    The ones who are most vulnerable to this change are the ones who especially should’ve left this platform already. I’m sorry, but they’re not being forced to use it, and everyone should leave it. I don’t have much sympathy or care about wanting to make an alt-right social media platform safer, I want it to crash and burn.

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      “BuT eVeRyOnE iS oN tWitTeR”

      And will continue to be so long as everyone keeps showing Elon there is NOTHING he can do, say, or allow that will get people to leave.

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      A lot of them are in-denial. I’ve seen them argue that Twitter isn’t a Nazi platform and is used by normal people. Serves them right I guess, they were told it was a problem and they didn’t want to listen.

      The best way to cure network effect is with pain and suffering, and eventual forced deprivation (when the service shuts down).

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    As much as I despise Musk and Twitter and hope that both die a painful death, what is actually proposed here is honestly a change for the better: It’s not about preventing people from blocking users, it’s about blocked users being able to see public posts, which they could also see by just logging out. This is being honest about what a block does and avoids giving people a wrong sense of privacy that they simply don’t have on the platform. From what I’ve heard there is a possibility to post for followers-only which in combination with requiring approval to follow and that isn’t going away here either…

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      Twitter massively reduced visibility for logged-out users, so just logging out doesn’t help, you have to log into a different account. This additional fraction reduces the amount of harassment a lot. Not sure that being “more honest” is worth the price, especially when an info box could achieve the same without making harassment easier.

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        Twitter massively reduced visibility for logged-out users,

        I know, but it still didn’t fully remove it.

        Not sure that being “more honest” is worth the price

        The thing is that there really is no price, nor was there ever one. Your suggestion that you think there is demonstrates that the way blocking worked gave people dangerously wrong ideas. It’s about being clear to people what they can and cannot expect. Anything else is ACTUALLY dangerous.

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          Wearing a seatbelt in a moving vehicle does not magically prevent all deaths upon an accident. Do you recommend we should stop wearing seatbelts?

          If there are measures in place that reduce the danger of something happening, it’s not wise to remove them just because they’re not 100% effective.

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            I’m not advocating against a seatbelt, I’m advocating against not wearing it, “because I am confident that I can hold on to something in case of a collision” or similar stupid reasons. Expecting that blocking does anything to hide public posts that you can simply open in another browser (or in the same browser in private browsing mode) is not a seatbelt, it is the equivalent of a slightly stronger handle on top of the car window that is being advertized as a feature to protect you in case of an accident.

            This change first and foremost makes it clear that that handle does nothing meaningful and that you should wear an actual seatbelt (follower-only posts, ideally with restricted followers) instead, if you are worried about a collision. Twitter is a public forum. You can’t tell people to leave you alone, shout with a megaphone across the marketplace and then be annoyed when they hear you. If you don’t want them to hear you, don’t use a megaphone.

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          I know, but it still didn’t fully remove it.

          Sure, but it doesn’t have to be fully removed to have an effect.

          The thing is that there really is no price, nor was there ever one. Your suggestion that you think there is demonstrates that the way blocking worked gave people dangerously wrong ideas.

          Sorry, but you don’t get to redefine how humans work. There is a price, because friction reduces the likelihood of people following through. Removing that friction increases the likelihood of people following through. You might not want to believe this to be the case, but please read studies on the topic - it’s just how humans work. You don’t get to dismiss negative effects because you don’t believe in them.

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            The argument here is literally about stalkers. Not about random uninterested people that don’t care.

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              No, it’s not just about stalkers, it’s about harassment in general. But even if it were, even stalkers are still people and don’t work fundamentally different.

              Feel free to show any research proving me wrong, but unless you find any, the reasonable position is “humans work the same on this topic as on others”.

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      Nah, bullshit. This is 100% Musk’s fragile ego getting upset that people blocked him. He wants to be able to force his and his evil friends’ opinions into the faces of people who don’t want to see it.

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        Please read again what he changed and then try to figure out why your rationale is clearly not what this is about.

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        That’s the opposite of what’s happening. In this case, Musk would have blocked you, and you would want to see his posts (for some reason). You could normally see a user who’s blocked your posts by just opening the thread in an incognito tab to view as a logged out user. This just cuts out that step and lets you see the user’s posts without doing that.

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      I’d say “for now”, but at least we’ve got the EU protecting us from that possibility.

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      A lot of people have professional reasons to be on Twitter. If you’re trying to promote a business you need to be where the people are and none of the alternatives have anywhere near Twitter’s size.

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      I’ve practically been groveling begging my girlfriend to switch.

      Its not that bad just ignore the ads

      Yeah I don’t go in replies because it’s always bots

      There’s still some things on there

      She didn’t really catch onto mastodon, discoverability is the problem imo. May try getting her onto bluesky even though it wouldn’t be my pick. Some people just like whatever they currently have more than change - which maybe not being able to block like EVERY OTHER media platform may be a big enough change.

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        Basically nothing I follow is on anything else because they need the numbers. The few people that are just copy their twitter posts and never actually engage.

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        By all means, keep posting and perusing porn on the platform, when that and Elon will be all that’s left on Twitter, it’ll be ok.

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      I feel Musk is an experiment testing what would happen if you gave an Internet troll of middling intelligence billions of dollars.

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    Reminder: if you still have an account with that fucko’s service-

    You support everthing he does.

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      I’ve kept my account because it’s a sought after username. Deleting it would allow some grifter to take it over. It also predates both Elmo’s and the original Twitter accounts.

      I’ve not posted anything under it since the third party apps were blocked.

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      Reminder: if you purchase gas from BP, you support anything they’ve ever done.

      Reminder: if you purchase a smart phone, you support child labor.

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        I don’t believe I’m entertaining this ridiculous comparison, but….

        We NEED gasoline. We NEED telecommunications. You don’t NEED to tweet dumb shit about your breakfast or keep up with sports scores.

        You’re here to defend X, therefore you’re defending Elon. That’s how it works. Don’t like it, maybe don’t speak up for him next time.

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          You may need gasoline, but you don’t need BP’s gasoline. By choosing to buy BP’s gasoline, you support everything BP has ever done. Don’t want to support them, buy different gasoline.

          FWIW, I’m not sure if I have a Xitter account or not. I did at one point. Definitely don’t remember a password, and I probably used a former email account that I can no longer access either, so no way of recovering it if it still exists. I have a severe lack of fucks to give about it.

          But, I am pro-pedantry, and your argument kinda sucked.

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            So you popped in to say that you essentially have nothing to say by supporting a shit tier false equivalence argument. Good for you!

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                  Ah, yes, I’m having a conversation with someone with an opposing viewpoint, so clearly I’m upset. Ya caught me.

                  Is this some odd debate tactic people use here? Tell people they’re upset in the hope it gets them upset? Is emotional and mental stability that unstable on Lemmy? Never thought I’d pine for the reddit days.

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                I’m so sorry that People hurt you that much on Lemmy. Maybe this place is a bit too “rough” for you but you need to learn that the Internet is no safe space for you. If you feel so triggered maybe you should take longer breaks between using it and see how much you can actually stomach it at once. It’s totally okay. No one will judge you, some people can deal better with the “stress” the Internet brings us and some people need to take breaks.

                If you ever need more help: https://mentalhealthhotline.org/anxiety-hotline/

                Take care of yourself and learn what your Body is teaching you!

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      I’m keeping it just long enough to harass his ass. I’ll be all over him like Joe Biden on an ice cream cone, or Elon Musk on Trumps dick.

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        I promise you: you’re not harassing him. You ARE however, supporting him by having an account.