Following up my discussion on [https://lemmy.world/post/24254749](0080 War in the Pocket), I’ve recently watched 08th MS Team and the Witch from Mercury, both for the first time in anticipation of the new Gquuuuuuuux Gundam series.

Overall, I quite liked it.

It wasn’t perfect and the story was a bit hit-or-miss for me personally. I also felt it occasionally got a bit lost in the sauce of the whole meaningless corporate school battles thing. But at it’s best the drama was really engaging and good.

The Good

Suletta and Miorine were great characters that were really well acted. I think a lot of my positive feelings for this show rely on the fact that Suletta was just a very likeable and relatable character, a true underdog who got brutally fucking bullied and manipulated, and definitely went through some shit, but ultimately tried hard and elevated herself. Where this show really shines above all else is the drama around these two characters in particular.

The Bad

I think the plot could have been more effective and meaningful had it been a little bit simpler.

In the first half of the show I felt like Prospera had a strong and simple motivation for what she was doing–revenge. But over the second half she turned into a weird overly complicated Gendo Ikari facsimile. I liked the somewhat Armored Core nature of a solar system governed by corporate oligarchy (and it’s a good reflection of the times we live in), but multiple times throughout the series I found myself wondering who people and corporate names were referring too.

Complexity doesn’t always equate to depth, and I feel like this story could have been more effective to me if it had been simpler. Suletta works well because her motivation is simple; to be accepted and loved by family and friends, and to stop needless killing.

The UGLY

Dystopian corporate oligarchy is bad… or is it good?

At the start of this series I was really excited to see a modern anime story dare to be critical of the mega corporate Japan and Earth that exist today, and the oligarchs, investment and business politics that govern almost every aspect of our lives. After all, this series starts off with the idea that corporate dynasties are using kids to essentially demonstrate the power of weapons in order to gain shareholder value and conglomerate clout. Surely these kids would eventually realize that all of this company bullshit was not only against their personal interests, but also against the interests of everyone in the solar system, right?

Unfortunately by the end I lost any sense that there was an overarching message. The premise was interesting and good, but I feel like this series completely backed away from saying much about the world they lived in at all. We see characters like Guel learn and grow from his experiences on Earth and the conflicts within his family, only to at the end revert into the same system that tore his life apart for no reason.

I won’t spoil the ending, but I felt that the show never really puts its foot down on whether the corporate oligarchy that they all live under is BAD or GOOD for society, and whether it’s worth saving or not?

I think there’s a simpler and better version of this story that could have existed, in which Prospera uses Suletta and Ariel to usurp the corporate structure of the Benerit Group (purely in the name of revenge), only to throw the entire solar system into war and chaos as the Earthians rise up against a weakened Spacian oligarchy.


But with all that said, I did like the show. Mainly because I liked Suletta, Miorine and the drama that unfolded around them. It’s certainly an entry that’s worthy of the other Gundam series that I’ve checked out so far.

  • glilimith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 days ago

    I’m not really a gundam fan, or a fan of space operas in general, but I was recommended this when it first started and I really enjoyed the first half. I felt like the corporate setting gave a suitable dystopian feel for the meaty drama about kids dealing with the sins of their parents, and I was fully on board. But, somewhere in the second half I feel like it all got a bit lost. The plot became more complicated and the themes got a bit muddled, and I sort of stopped engaging with anything except the emotional threads of the characters, who continued to be very well written. Overall, even though it was enjoyable, it felt like it had a lot of wasted potential.

    And I agree, not woke enough: not anti-capitalist enough and not gay enough. (But, to be fair, I’d say that about most things, lol)

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      Yeah, that’s exactly how I feel.

      Suletta’s and Miorine’s likability was the only thing that kept me on board until the end, but ultimately it felt like a show that walked right up to the edge of saying something meaningful about modern society (be it corporate capitalism, LGBTQ issues, women’s issues, war, etc.) but then stepped back for no reason.