@ashton1593@lemmy.sdf.org is spreading a disinfo campaign trying to rebrand horrible ideas as “not nazi.” I don’t know where else to warn people about this. We are pushing for an instance ban, but the admin at SDF tends to be slow to reach.
Edit: Look at the modlog. I beg of any instance admin that sees the ban and removal reasons alone, including a ban reason of “tranny” , I hope to hell they break your instance rules. You should instance ban this moron to keep the spread down.
Edit 2: It has been more than a day now with not even a “We will look into it.” kind of reply from the admin. It may be time to look into defederation. We are effectively abandoned.
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Nazis GTFO.
Yep. Can confirm. I did update the post with a screenshot of the modlog.
Oops I missed that! Anyway glad it’s dealt with.
Okay wow so it’s been almost 24 hours. The admin’s last post was a year ago. Has anyone had contact with them since? What are the chances this instance is just running derelict?
Hoping I am wrong! But if I’m not SDF users might want to consider to start migrating. If the admin can’t be reached at all the next step other admins are gonna take is defederation.
SDF is a very old, esteemed community that has existed long before Lemmy and the Fediverse.
24 hours is normal by its measure.
Yes I do understand that. Nevertheless SDF needs to come to terms that it is integrating with a much more dense and active community by hosting a Lemmy instance and act accordingly.
I don’t think this is the right attitude. Just do a coordinated ban on the user and their communities. If one can’t ban a community from one instance on another - then this is a technical flaw to be solved. Maybe some kind of 2/3 vote system to do those coordinated bans, too, so that people with personal life keeping small instances could keep up.
But then in my personal humble opinion any federated model is flawed. And then NOSTR is inconvenient, because it’s everything in the same place - microblogging, video streaming, something like Reddit/Lemmy, and I fear to see a new tab in Amethyst every day. Also I don’t like that its protocol is designed around web technologies - websockets+JSON. But maybe that’s wise, it’s a bit less likely to be easily blocked.
It sounds like your position is based on a disagreement with the system as a whole, which is fair. But I am working within the realistic bounds of the tools currently at hand.
Not even a reply to anything on Mastodon or e-mails. I think I may nuke this account and all of the content in protest.
definitely not what you want to see in that position of power
I’m disappointed that such a user is on the same instance as I. Thanks for raising the alarm. I’m hopeful the folks in charge take action.
Startrek.website has banned the user and blocked/purged the communities.
Lemmy probably needs a “Report Community” feature that goes to the Admins of the instance.
But I can say, the Admins are aware.
Isn’t there a button that does that already?
Lot of trolls floating in lately. Got that stupid catfishing message a couple days ago in my DMs.
Seems that the current president cosplaying as king has emboldened the most toxic conservatives to crawl out of the woodwork.
I remember that happened in 2017 too, so we can probably expect them to get bored and fuck off somewhere else sooner or later
Wait, the catfish happened to a bunch of people? Thought it was just a few, I ignored it when I got it.
Weird right?
I think the catfish was targeting active commenters based on the post a bit ago about it.
Huh, that’s strange. Why active users specifically? Telling me to touch grass?
Probably easy to find usernames by just opening a post I’d guess
Touching grass is never a bad idea though
Yea lol, was a joke more than anything.
Help spread the word on this, we need instance admins all over to help stop this asshole.
CC:
lemm.ee admins
lemmy.blahaj.zone admins
beehaw.org admins
@remington@beehaw.org @alyaza@beehaw.org @Gaywallet@beehaw.org @Lionir@beehaw.org @Penguincoder@beehaw.org
pawb.social admins
@crashdoom@pawb.social @natebluehooves@pawb.social @itsOasus@pawb.social @southernwolf@pawb.social @Spitfire@pawb.social
sh.itjust.works admins
@TheDude@sh.itjust.works @kersploosh@sh.itjust.works @imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works @InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works
discuss.online admins
@jgrim@discuss.online @lazyguru@discuss.online @m_f@discuss.online @Rooki@discuss.online @MrKaplan@discuss.online
lemmy.world admins
@ruud@lemmy.world @Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world @Rooki@lemmy.world @kersploosh@lemmy.world @MrKaplan@lemmy.world
I apologize for pinging all of you, this is a serious issue and it’s faster to ping like this than to message everyone individually.
We banned him a few hours ago. In the future, please at least navigate to the major servers and check their modlogs before pinging the admins.
Admins usually notify other admins fairly quickly about stuff like this. But in this case the other admins (myself) aren’t going to know if the user had already banned by one of our colleagues, so we end up having to check multiple times.
It’s all good though, I appreciate your urgency.
Oh I see, sorry I didn’t check sooner. I’ll try to check the modlog next time (hopefully there isn’t a next time).
There will be. You can check https://matrix.to/#/#defense:lemmy.world
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What the hell? Why are you making random unfounded bad faith accusations towards me. I pinged the ones that came to mind, mainly the ones I know and also are admins of the ones I’m part of.
In case you’re wondering the reason I didn’t ping hexbear or lemmy.ml is the same reason I didn’t ping literally any others than the ones listed. They didn’t cross my mind when I was thinking of teams to ping.
You really need to work on not inferring bad faith in others’ actions and pouncing on them preemptively. It makes it seem that your actions are in and of themselves in bad faith.
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This type of behavior you are engaging in right now with me is absolutely in bad faith.
If you think that jumping on me and accusing me of omitting instances from my mentions intentionally, and overall having a hostile tone towards me with zero provocation is “level-headed” or “good-faith” then we have some very different definitions of those terms. You have not acted level headed from the moment you replied to me, and frankly your behavior towards me has been extremely hostile. You haven’t acted in good faith since you first replied to me.
You have not acted level headed from the moment you replied to me, and frankly your behavior towards me has been extremely hostile. You haven’t acted in good faith since you first replied to me.
I mean, your earlier comments in this exact thread look to be spreading disinfo:
“most tankies don’t jump straight to the transphobia”
This seems to imply that some do jump straight to transphobia while others are still transphobic, but less obvious about it.(ie they don’t jump directly for transphobia but end up there eventually.
Is that the implication you intended? because I can see why that would piss off an admin on one of the instances with the biggest trans communities on Lemmy.
Either way you were literally posting about “the tankies” on this thread but then at the same time they “didn’t cross your mind” when it came to asking people to address the original issue. Looks like bad faith behavior to me.
Yeah the implication is that tankes don’t gravitate towards transphobia which is why I think it is a troll who’s fucking with us or trying to get attention or hurt people.
I’d agree that it looks like some Nazi trolling, the transphobia makes it stick out like a sore thumb.
It oftentimes takes me a few passes to get what people mean too. I was mostly trying to point out why I could see reasoning for her to come in hot in the thread.
your earlier comments in this exact thread look to be spreading disinfo
That’s not disinformation at all
This seems to imply that some do jump straight to transphobia while others are still transphobic, but less obvious about it
You seem to be implying that this is impossible, which is a ridiculous thing to think
You seem to be implying that this is impossible, which is a ridiculous thing to think
I was pointing out how a reading of the statement made could be that they were saying that all tankies are transphobic, some less open about it. That’s a reading which is pretty inflammatory considering how a large portion of the trans community active on the fediverse is on “tankie” instances. The “tankie” instances also have had the strictest rules against transphobia out there.
So I would say that yes, the likelihood of all tankies’ being transphobic (some sneaky about it) is near zero based on observable reality in this universe.
Also as discussed with draconicneo, that wasn’t even the original intent behind the statement anyways, so I don’t see why you need to rehash as if it was.
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I don’t know what you expect me to do here by pinging me.
Just wanted to bring attention to this hostile bad faith behavior which doesn’t seem like something that is welcome here in this community. Also the fact that he’s lashing out over reports due to his uncivil behavior:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37004617/16455785I’m not a mod of this comm. But in any case, hostile bad faith from hexbears is sort of their default against anyone who they don’t perceive to be in their camp.
That is true. I did ping Unruffled as well, so we’ll see what he thinks about it. Should probably ping @PugJesus@lemmy.dbzer0.com as well. His lemmy.world account won’t be able to see it, but his dbzer0 one should.
Hey buddy, don’t take anything Carcosa says too seriously, they were just here to cause pointless drama.
“How can I make this about me?”
-Average Tankie Triad User
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As an instance admin I replied to a comment pinging instance admins to ask why me and other common instances were not asked.
He was only pinging the important ones.
Oh my god, I just realized I didn’t ping ani.social either. It’s almost like I just pinged a handful of instances’ admin teams and didn’t ping all instances out there. This idea that CARCOSA has that I am deliberately omitting instances from my pings for nefarious reasons is very stupid indeed. They’re just looking for reasons to flip out at me and others and just start drama in general. 🙄
Contact the admins at dubvee.org they have a system of cross instance banning and tracking down to an art form. That’s assuming you can contact them if you are not banned.
I didn’t think to reach out to them since they’re a smaller instance, they likely don’t even see this whole thing happening. This is more an issue for the bigger admins since they’re the ones who will ultimately stop the spread. So I didn’t really want to bother them with something that they probably can’t even see.
Appreciated!
Thank you for bringing it to our attention, already banned from Lemmy.world, will communicate with the other admins to see if more action is warranted.
I don’t mean to backseat moderate but is a 7 day ban really the best option in this situation as opposed to a permanent one with content removal? I mean this isn’t an average scenario, this is an extremist user spreading hate and disinformation, and for that they get only a 7 day ban?
This is a temporary measure until I can discuss it futher with the other admins. I think they’ll agree a perma-ban is warranted.
Ok that’s good to know. I sure hope they do.
Just a follow-up, they are now perma-banned. Thank you (:
Glad I could help.
Thank you king/queen/chief!
It’s good they’re now banned
Geen probleem, mnr/mvr/overig taalnazi.
Hijacking this useful ping to say that I absolutely would not hold a grudge over defederation due to this. We can’t get in touch with the admin. They are likely asleep. Please remember, though, that aside from this BS, it is just a quiet nerdy instance full of Unix lovers.
Edit: autocorrect typos
Me neither. If the mods don’t respond to or address this issue by tomorrow I will begin advocating defederation from lemmy.sdf.org because if they aren’t willing or able to moderate hate speech, then they aren’t a safe instance to be on or be around.
Yeah, seems like they need a spare emergency admin or two in different time zones. Hell, every instance that doesn’t require approval to create communities needs those, imo
Most instances with a larger userbase really need to have a 24 hour team, “mods are asleep” should never happen on a server with a large userbase. The disruptions that can cause in cases like this are unacceptable.
It is a bad look for a non-profit that does some genuinely cool stuff.
Yeah it definitely is. They should be way more attentive when it comes to moderation, as well as maintenance of their services. I still remember having to beg them to update from 0.19.2 to 0.19.3 because the instance was broken and not federating (couldn’t even log in) it was so difficult to get them to do that. They did do it but it shouldn’t have been anywhere near that hard.
Feel free to donate and collaborate!
Appears they’ve already been dealt with.
Nope, I looked on lemmy.sdf.org and it does not appear they have. Nazi shit is still there. So since it’s been a day without any response I think it’s time we started defederating from lemmy.sdf.org at least until we get updates on the situation. After all this idiot could have more sockpupets there we don’t know about.
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Read the reply I wrote you. Like actually wrote you. Not the report I wrote to this community’s mod team and this instance’s admin team for lashing out at me and accusing me of omitting instances in bad faith.
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It’s a bad faith accusation when you baselessly infer or imply malicious intent. Emphasis on baselessly.
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This is starting to sound like sealioning…
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Yeah, I saw that guy recently and blocked the communities that he seemed to be running.
I then tagged him as “Conservative Dickhead” in Voyager, though I’ll be updating that to be simply “Nazi”.
Tomato, tomato.
Yeah, at first I want to give the benefit of the doubt, but after reading here I decided to just spell it out for myself
Might as well have some pizzazz though. Naziwanker? Schutzstaffelcockmuncher? Adolf Rimjobber?
I thought about it, but if I am going to call someone a Nazi, I don’t want to make a joke about the situation.
Gallows humour. They don’t play by the book, so why should you?
A good old Jewish saying, “they tried to kill us, let’s eat”. They are a hateful ignorant evil nuisance, nothing more, but they should be called out for it.
I gotta start tagging the trolls/non trolls. Guess I’ll start with you. Ally 😀💜
Thank you, I don’t know if I did anything that valuable, but I do appreciate it!
sdf.org needs a backup admin that is reachable badly.
I’ve emailed, tooted, and tagged the admin on Lemmy. I am fumbling through a BBS post in my phone. I can do no more except let people know to block this Nazi and please don’t think the SDF instance appreciates or tolerates this Nazi BS.
100% fuck this guy. We just love unix and floppies and shit.
I agree, they really do. I don’t have too much hope for them otherwise. Even getting them to update their instance when it was on the broken 0.19.2 Lemmy version was like pulling teeth. They’re ridiculously hard to contact. I was thankfully able to get that resolved but wow… I’m glad I didn’t choose it as my primary instance.
I just had a look at his profile again, and he keep posting shit, but so far seems to be mostly only posting new actual posts on his own communities on lemmy.sdf.org
Those communities are:
conservative
saynotogroomers
libsoftiktok
saynotonazis
I can’t be arsed to link properly, and don’t want to drive traffic to them, but these are the current communities on lemmy.sdf.org, where he is most active.
A quick look at their comment and post history shows that they hate:
Trans people
Anime
Star Trek
Star Wars
…do they know they’re on Lemmy…?
Well since they seem at least ambivilant on linux, perhaps not?
(Kidding, kidding.)
Liking Linux but hating trans people is diabolical work. At least 25% of the userbase wear pink, blue and white thigh highs.
Seems like it might be the same asshole who spammed Rammy.site in the past and flooded it with hateful garbage.
Quick correction: Domain is
lemmy.sdf.org(fix missing period)Thanks. I hate typing on my phone.
Okay, so I feel partly guilty because my pov has been that I want to poke at what I think is hivemind behavior and take on devils advocate perspectives. I don’t think it’s worth it if literal nazis feel like they have a place to comment here. I hate it when there are posts that go unchallenged while advocating for clearly disingenuous and misstated opinions. But yeah, I think I’ll just block out the Marxist political content instead.
Okay, so I feel partly guilty because my pov has been that I want to poke at what I think is hivemind behavior and take on devils advocate perspectives.
Bro… Take a look at yourself.
When you’re on the same side of Nazis and and they feel like they have a welcoming place with you and your ideas, doesn’t that tell you maybe what you’re doing is not ideal?
You’re not simply playing “devil’s advocate”. You’re enabling fascist, Nazis and other bigots because in your efforts to “fight Marxism” (whatever that means), you’re growing more and more extreme towards the right.
And is that really the road you want to take?
I don’t think it’s worth it if literal nazis feel like they have a place to comment here.
It seems like your answer to that question is “no”. So why don’t you take a moment to step back and ask yourself if to you it’s worth being on the same side of Nazis.
I hate it when there are posts that go unchallenged while advocating for clearly disingenuous and misstated opinions.
But they don’t go unchallenged. You are being disingenuous here.
I saw your profile, and all your rebuttals at anything remotely Marxist has very often been commented on by fellow Marxists. You either stopped replying when you didn’t know what to say. Or their answers were just dismissed by you, without providing any legitimate counter arguments.
But yeah, I think I’ll just block out the Marxist political content instead.
Do that then. I’d rather you just blocked various accounts and communities rather than continuing down the road you’re in.
I’ve seen plenty of people get sucked into the far right pipeline because a Marxist was too mean once or because they didn’t agree with the left mentality.
You can of course be another of those people. And additionally, you can of course disagree with left ideas/opinions as well.
But if you’re feeling any remorse about being on the same side of Nazi users, I would invite you to ask yourself why are you truly being so passionately against the left that you’re willing to align your ideas and worldviews with those of Nazis.
Best of luck to you!
Edit: You don’t have to answer my comment either if you don’t want to. I just wanted to share my own opinion and an invitation to stop and truly reflect on what’s important to you.
You’re right, it’s not worth it
I stopped responding because I got banned 🤷♀️
I stopped responding because I got banned 🤷♀️
You got banned 12 hours ago from comics.ml for exactly 6 days. And you were temporarily banned because you kept being troll-y and not engaging in good fate. You were laughing at the people downvoting you, telling everyone that they didn’t understand anything they were saying and that only you were the one who truly knew what they were talking about. That is troll behavior. Period. I know because when I get heated, sometimes I do it too and I know that’s just trolling.
While 8 days ago you were banned from blahaj.zone because your views got you labeled as bigot. You might say you are not, but what is the difference if at the end of the day you just happen to keep saying the same things that other bigots say? In the eyes of anyboutsider, you’re just another bigot.
Finally, let’s get something straight: I am not here to convince you of what you did. Nor I wish to debate about whether or not what you did was correct, the mods actions justified or anything else like that.
I am simply telling you, as an outsider, that your actions are mirroring the same actions of those that eventually started hanging out with fascists and Nazis because they alienated everyone else in their blind reactions and hate.
What you do with this information is entirely up to you, my friend.
There will be no amount of words that I can say that could convince you of that unless you think that yourself.
Don’t worry. The troll is competent and the org doesn’t have the bandwidth to deal with this. To all that may see this: defederation should be on the table
Thanks for the heads up.
You are welcome. I’d recommend not looking at the local feed for a while.
I agree! I saw their posts and was disgusted.
