• kbal@fedia.io
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    11 months ago

    The sight of so many people around the world who had always been unequivocal supporters of anything and everything Israel did slowly changing their minds as the horrific scope of the violence inflicted on Gaza continues to escalate has been an impressive one. The remaining people who refuse to change their views at all are impressive in a different way.

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      11 months ago

      It’s good that awareness is increasing.

      But it would behoove everyone who’s participating in the debate even more to make a real attempt to understand the history of the conflict, and more broadly, the region. This includes the war that is now ongoing, as well as everything that has occurred in the region (and the contemporary geopolitics surrounding it) since the country was established in 1948, as well as UN/British ownership of Mandatory Palestine, the Ottoman period, the Mameluke period, all the way back to the Crusades, the Mongol invasion, the Byzantine and Roman empires, and ancient Egypt. Favoring a modern slant is understandable, but it’s crucially important to not consider the situation in a historical vacuum. There is subtlety in context, and that part of the world has a whole lot of context.

      That’s not to say that the Israeli government is justified for their invasion, bombing, and de-facto implementation of an apartheid state. Nor is it to say that various state and non-state Arab entities are justified for conducting various acts of military action and terrorism over the years. All I mean is that there is a TON of cultural and religious history there, and violent, unilateral action pretty much always makes things worse for all the civilians in the area.

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    11 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Sánchez in a speech to the gathering demanded a “humanitarian cease-fire” in Gaza, where Israel’s retaliatory strikes and ground invasion have claimed some 11,000 lives, including women and children, since the country suffered an attack last month by Hamas militants who killed 1,400 people and took 240 hostages.

    By the time the EU-level Party of European Socialists (PES) published its “final” resolution on Friday there was no mention of the Israel-Hamas war because national delegations failed to agree on the wording.

    It wasn’t until after party leaders, including Scholz and Sánchez, had dined Friday evening, and the PES leadership met early Saturday, that the wording was agreed and retroactively added to the resolution.

    We call firmly for humanitarian pauses to achieve the provision of basic necessities such as water, food, electricity, fuel and medical supplies,” the final wording stated.

    Javi López, a Spanish Socialist MEP from Catalonia, said the choice to call for pauses rather than a cease-fire in the final text was a “compromise” and a “concession” to the German Social Democrats.

    Filibeck said there was unanimous agreement among national parties to condemn Hamas, to support Israel’s right to self-defense, to stop the suffering of Palestinian civilians in Gaza, to hold an international peace conference and to work toward a two-state solution.


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  • CJOtheReal
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    11 months ago

    There will not be any negotiations with terrorists! Every ceasefire just plays into the hands of Hamas!

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      11 months ago

      Given that Israel is terrorising the Palestinians both in Gaza and the West Bank with massive war crimes and crimes against humanity, by your own logic there would be not negotiaions with Israel.

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      11 months ago

      And you think Hamas recruitment won’t soar among those who lose parents, siblings or children to Israeli bombs or starvation/lack of clean water/lack of medicine/… due to blockades by Israel?

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        11 months ago

        If so they have to be removed as well. If someone is dumb enough to go to the ones that make the problem in search of the solution they are to blame themselves.