• Silverseren@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    You can drop a bomb in the middle of a crowd of people and still claim to not have been targeting the people, they were just there. Doesn’t really change the evilness of the action one way or the other.

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      11 months ago

      “They put on a blindfold and fired into a crowd with a machine gun. Clearly, as they weren’t specifically targeting the civilians in the crowd, it’s all okay!” - State Department desperately trying to come up with excuses for American policy towards Israel

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    11 months ago

    Got it, all those people in the refugee camps weren’t civilians.

    I guess anything to justify mass murder…

  • Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Bombing promised safe routes and locations is totally not targeting civilians. Just ignore the mountain of bodies. Even if Hamas was sneaking out of them, you promised they’d be safe. The civilians had no other choice.

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    11 months ago

    True, they’re not targeting civilians. They’re just killing everyone indiscriminately. Hell, they’ve even killed Israelis.

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      11 months ago

      Yes, the leaflets that warn civilians which areas will be bombed

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        11 months ago

        It’s evidence that they’re trying to create the appearance of avoiding civilian casualties.

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    11 months ago

    Just like there no evidence police deliberately use excessive force. It’s just standard procedure, nothing personal.

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    11 months ago

    For sake of argument, suppose they earnestly believe this. I can think of a scenario consistent with that belief: that they also believe there are no civilians in the region, and that everyone present is Hamas.

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      11 months ago

      Then all you need to tie a psychopathic bow on that is to say that anyone that doesn’t openly denounce Hamas is part of Hamas.

      Easy peasy lemon squeezy

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      11 months ago

      Nor does it remove it from being a war crime. Just being indifferent to whether one hits civilians or not is a war crime. The bar is one has to concern oneself actively with considering how to minimise civilian casualties.

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    11 months ago

    It seems more like a wanton disregard for civilian casualties. Blowing up entire apartment towers because they believe one or more people there were valid targets is unacceptable but not technically targeting civilians.

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    11 months ago

    Maybe not deliberately, but is bombing buildings not caring if kids are in them or not better?? Not journalists killing is what I would like to see them comment on.

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    You’re going to have to take my word for it because I’m lazy and in bed, but Israel goes to serious effort to make no distinction between civilian, terrorist, protester or child.

    They have rules of engagement so broad that basically nobody is safe. When soldiers gunned down children, they are either not charged or cleared by falsified evidence. Some of which admits that they killing was unjustified and offers alternative explanations to be given to the press.

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    11 months ago

    I’ve seen video of civvies in Gaza trying to take cover away from open space and being shot right through the knee. It’s been circulating since what I think in real time would be 2 nights ago. State department has been captured by the IDF.