Do people really not remember that it was also boomers protesting vietnam and working in the civil rights movement? Or that plenty of people born after that voted for trump, and will again?
Three intergenerational fake fight is dumb, and it prevents any real attempt at unification to fight against a real enemy: fascism.
I wasn’t exclusively talking about hippies, there were other counter culture groups and movements.
But the thing I think you missed is that even if most baby boomers weren’t hippies and protesters, all of the hippies and protesters were boomers.
It isn’t a generational issue at all, it’s a human issue, where you have people that fall into loose groupings of motivations and thinking, which seem to be either “nature”, or carried across generations over time. Some people, likely the majority, will be the conformists, and the rest fall into varying degrees of heresy.
There are plenty of baby boomers and later generations (us gen x old fucks are old fucks now too) that don’t sit around bitching about “kids today”.
Some of the baby boomer resistance got worn out and stopped fighting to some degree, but that’s totally different than the entire generation just becoming conformist.
Truth? People are just idiots in general, and every generation has them. But until you spend time really hanging around a given generation, you only see and hear the loudest of them. I spent two decades of my life taking care of the elderly and dying. You ended up running into a big cross section of baby boomers and older generations doing that during the nineties and early noughts.
That’s part of the problem. Most of us never get a chance to get paid to sit and listen to someone. We only hear the tiniest sliver of a generation. Even with my hundreds of patients to listen to, that’s still a tiny sliver, it’s just bigger than most people get. All that usually happens is you get access to family and whoever is in the news/talk show circuit. Online, you tend to only get the extreme ends of things being the loudest.
When a large generation is voting to block progressive change it is a generational issue on the macro scale.
I am fully on board with the idea that shouldn’t lead to discrimination on age, shouldn’t lead to assuming all boomers are the problem.
Nor that all those younger are progressive.
But politically it is a generational issue. When talking about politics it is legitimate to talk about demographics and voting blocks and how we might get them on side. Or at least prevent them doing further damage.
Obviously my side is primarily the “stop wrecking the planet” side with a healthy dose of “poverty and homelessness are a stain on any developed nation”. So boomers voting the way they do is a problem and has been for some time.
They are yet to stop voting in people who make the world worse. That generation is still a problem. It has been since the 70s.
Either we get enough of that generation to change direction or, more likely, we have to out vote them.
wait, it’s like not a generational issue, and isn’t using generation as a shorthand for specific demographics still useful in everyday language? how else would you refer to such a group of individuals, i’m drawing blanks.
Ahh, the voice of reason. All ____ are ____ (fill in with your favorite stereotypes). Then, us serfs fight amongst ourselves, oblivious to what’s really going on.
A significant number of serfs dream of lording over their peers, just like, or worse than, the current lord. Those are the perfect, disposable tools for the oppressors, little promises go a long way.
Nah, it was still the WW2 generation that fought for Civil rights. The Boomers were in elementary school in the 50s and only the oldest could even vote in 1963, 1964, and 1968.
But once all the Boomers could vote, who got elected? Reagan. So fuck them.
Oh “baby boomer” has been a term for a long time. Probably since history and social sciences started categorizing generations. My point is young people on the internet were not using it as a blanket term for anyone over 30 or 40 years old.
No they were using it to denote a generation of people born after WW2 who have had everything given to them in life and destroyed it afterwards so nobody could benefit from it anymore.
I mean, the oldest zoomers were 17 a decade ago, and most were significantly younger. So yeah, I guess a lot of them wouldn’t know what “boomer” meant, but what of it?
Completely agree, but mate half the fun is watching generations gradually understand the multi layered perfection of life stage related Simpsons clips.
Oh BTW everyone you’re due to listen to cat Stevens father and son again to see if it has changed meaning
Do people really not remember that it was also boomers protesting vietnam and working in the civil rights movement? Or that plenty of people born after that voted for trump, and will again?
Three intergenerational fake fight is dumb, and it prevents any real attempt at unification to fight against a real enemy: fascism.
Fucking idiots, the whole fucking human race.
The counter culture was called a counter culture because it was a minority. Even of the boomers.
The intergenerational fight is dumb, but if you’re talking generalisation and joining in, most boomers weren’t hippies.
They conformed and are still complaining about those who don’t conform. Just as they complained about hippies then they complain about zoomers now.
I wasn’t exclusively talking about hippies, there were other counter culture groups and movements.
But the thing I think you missed is that even if most baby boomers weren’t hippies and protesters, all of the hippies and protesters were boomers.
It isn’t a generational issue at all, it’s a human issue, where you have people that fall into loose groupings of motivations and thinking, which seem to be either “nature”, or carried across generations over time. Some people, likely the majority, will be the conformists, and the rest fall into varying degrees of heresy.
There are plenty of baby boomers and later generations (us gen x old fucks are old fucks now too) that don’t sit around bitching about “kids today”.
Some of the baby boomer resistance got worn out and stopped fighting to some degree, but that’s totally different than the entire generation just becoming conformist.
Truth? People are just idiots in general, and every generation has them. But until you spend time really hanging around a given generation, you only see and hear the loudest of them. I spent two decades of my life taking care of the elderly and dying. You ended up running into a big cross section of baby boomers and older generations doing that during the nineties and early noughts.
That’s part of the problem. Most of us never get a chance to get paid to sit and listen to someone. We only hear the tiniest sliver of a generation. Even with my hundreds of patients to listen to, that’s still a tiny sliver, it’s just bigger than most people get. All that usually happens is you get access to family and whoever is in the news/talk show circuit. Online, you tend to only get the extreme ends of things being the loudest.
It isn’t a generation issue at all.
When a large generation is voting to block progressive change it is a generational issue on the macro scale.
I am fully on board with the idea that shouldn’t lead to discrimination on age, shouldn’t lead to assuming all boomers are the problem.
Nor that all those younger are progressive.
But politically it is a generational issue. When talking about politics it is legitimate to talk about demographics and voting blocks and how we might get them on side. Or at least prevent them doing further damage.
Obviously my side is primarily the “stop wrecking the planet” side with a healthy dose of “poverty and homelessness are a stain on any developed nation”. So boomers voting the way they do is a problem and has been for some time.
They are yet to stop voting in people who make the world worse. That generation is still a problem. It has been since the 70s.
Either we get enough of that generation to change direction or, more likely, we have to out vote them.
wait, it’s like not a generational issue, and isn’t using generation as a shorthand for specific demographics still useful in everyday language? how else would you refer to such a group of individuals, i’m drawing blanks.
I’m saying it isn’t about when you were born, it’s about how you think.
The demographics don’t matter because every generation has the same basic humanity within it.
Ahh, the voice of reason. All ____ are ____ (fill in with your favorite stereotypes). Then, us serfs fight amongst ourselves, oblivious to what’s really going on.
A significant number of serfs dream of lording over their peers, just like, or worse than, the current lord. Those are the perfect, disposable tools for the oppressors, little promises go a long way.
Nah, it was still the WW2 generation that fought for Civil rights. The Boomers were in elementary school in the 50s and only the oldest could even vote in 1963, 1964, and 1968.
But once all the Boomers could vote, who got elected? Reagan. So fuck them.
Hating on boomers has been popular on the internet for over a decade now.
Before that, young millenials and gen z wouldn’t even know what the term boomer referred to.
And now they just use it to mean anyone who is older than them. 40 year olds are boomers to them.
Boomer was definitely a term in the 80s at least… I was there, Gandalf.
Oh “baby boomer” has been a term for a long time. Probably since history and social sciences started categorizing generations. My point is young people on the internet were not using it as a blanket term for anyone over 30 or 40 years old.
No they were using it to denote a generation of people born after WW2 who have had everything given to them in life and destroyed it afterwards so nobody could benefit from it anymore.
Basically the selfishness of the Me-generation
Yes, that generation is referred to as the baby boomers.
which is hilarious because if you’re 40 you became an adult at the turn of the millennium.
I mean, the oldest zoomers were 17 a decade ago, and most were significantly younger. So yeah, I guess a lot of them wouldn’t know what “boomer” meant, but what of it?
Yeah fuck it. Just pick a word and use it.
yah and then most of those fuck went and voted for reagan
Completely agree, but mate half the fun is watching generations gradually understand the multi layered perfection of life stage related Simpsons clips.
Oh BTW everyone you’re due to listen to cat Stevens father and son again to see if it has changed meaning