This feels like something that should be solved by code, not culture. Users shouldn’t be inconveniencing others when simply trying to share content with all relevant communities.
Actually this is solved by the web frontend, it just list the crosspost under one of the post. People bitch about them is 100% from using mobile app or 3rd party frontend.
Not everyone crossposts. Some of them just spam the same thing on any communities that seem related. That’s probably good for smaller communities, but it makes browsing by Newest really suck - especially when browsing All and not just local or subscribed.
I disagree with this - on the web client crossposts are only shown once if you are subscribed to multiple communities. It’s useful if the same community is in multiple instances, or if there’s both a general and specific category that the content makes sense for.
I do think Lemmy could do with improving the UI though, and have communities that span multiple instances.
For starters it spams all. Also very often people spam a meme in like 10 meme communities and then its all over your feed.
Lemmy is quite small, one user can make a noticeable difference. Like I’d bet you could check my profile and recognise smth I’d posted. So 2-3 communities is OK, but going beyond that is excessive.
Now I’m not sure about how crossposts are dealt with, also I’m on an android app anyways. Mostly repeat posts aren’t crossposts but one image in several communities.
Wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of same communities on different instances, though?
I think right now we’re in the early days where people haven’t fully realized or understood HOW to use Lemmy.
I’m subscribed to 4 different Cleveland communities, but only 1 Ohio community. The Ohio community is far more active because there are less Ohio communities, if any others.
To me the power of Lemmy isn’t that it IS federated, but rather that it CAN be federated.
As in, Cleveland@instance gets popular. Then the mods get too uppidy. So Cleveland@OtherInstance can be created. That’s always an option to create another similiar community if the old one gets toxic.
But until you face that issue, why fracture the community???
Theres like 3 different pro wrestling communities on 3 different instances. All trying to be /r/squaredcircle. Except without the userbase. I say merge them.
We even saw this a bit on reddit.
/r/Nintendo got TOO active. To the point where you could make any topic at all. It could follow the rules. It could be on topic. There could be no issues AT ALL with your post. Instantly, there would be a problem. Your post would be removed, and they’d cite some rule that doesn’t apply.
So, someone made /r/CasualNintendo. With the idea that it was /r/Nintendo with a more casual modding style. Where your posts would stay up.
After a few years they had the same issues /r/Nintendo had. Too many posts. Too hard to moderate.
That would be a great example of needing multiple similiar clmmunities on different instances. If the userbase is in the hundreds of thousands, and it would make more sense to start a second community for the overflow, then you can.
But right now, I don’t see that as an issue Lemmy faces. I don’t think things should be spread out for the sake of preventing future problems, when you don’t have those problems now.
I like to think of it like a city. You don’t start building out the suburbs first. You build the city. Let the city grow, and when the city starts reaching max capacity, you build out the suburbs.
Also, forget roads. Everything is a single light rail transit car. The entire city, connected by a grid of rail. All using only 1 train. I’ve played Sim City on SNES. So I’m kind of an expert city planner.
Anyone using the “cross-post” feature is doing things properly, so don’t worry, the person you responded to just left that part out. They might be on an extremely old app that hasn’t been updated to handle that feature - but you are good. Thank you for caring…and sharing:-).
Thank you for the insight, I was wondering e.g. if changing the title of a cross-post would disable notification that it was a cross-post, but it sounds like not.:-)
Don’t share the same content in many communities even if its on different instances
This feels like something that should be solved by code, not culture. Users shouldn’t be inconveniencing others when simply trying to share content with all relevant communities.
Actually this is solved by the web frontend, it just list the crosspost under one of the post. People bitch about them is 100% from using mobile app or 3rd party frontend.
Not everyone crossposts. Some of them just spam the same thing on any communities that seem related. That’s probably good for smaller communities, but it makes browsing by Newest really suck - especially when browsing All and not just local or subscribed.
Huh, i didn’t know it won’t auto-crosspost.
Yeah. The difference:
(This is in Voyager)
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I disagree with this - on the web client crossposts are only shown once if you are subscribed to multiple communities. It’s useful if the same community is in multiple instances, or if there’s both a general and specific category that the content makes sense for.
I do think Lemmy could do with improving the UI though, and have communities that span multiple instances.
For starters it spams all. Also very often people spam a meme in like 10 meme communities and then its all over your feed.
Lemmy is quite small, one user can make a noticeable difference. Like I’d bet you could check my profile and recognise smth I’d posted. So 2-3 communities is OK, but going beyond that is excessive.
Now I’m not sure about how crossposts are dealt with, also I’m on an android app anyways. Mostly repeat posts aren’t crossposts but one image in several communities.
Wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of same communities on different instances, though?
I think right now we’re in the early days where people haven’t fully realized or understood HOW to use Lemmy.
I’m subscribed to 4 different Cleveland communities, but only 1 Ohio community. The Ohio community is far more active because there are less Ohio communities, if any others.
To me the power of Lemmy isn’t that it IS federated, but rather that it CAN be federated.
As in, Cleveland@instance gets popular. Then the mods get too uppidy. So Cleveland@OtherInstance can be created. That’s always an option to create another similiar community if the old one gets toxic.
But until you face that issue, why fracture the community???
Theres like 3 different pro wrestling communities on 3 different instances. All trying to be /r/squaredcircle. Except without the userbase. I say merge them.
We even saw this a bit on reddit.
/r/Nintendo got TOO active. To the point where you could make any topic at all. It could follow the rules. It could be on topic. There could be no issues AT ALL with your post. Instantly, there would be a problem. Your post would be removed, and they’d cite some rule that doesn’t apply.
So, someone made /r/CasualNintendo. With the idea that it was /r/Nintendo with a more casual modding style. Where your posts would stay up.
After a few years they had the same issues /r/Nintendo had. Too many posts. Too hard to moderate.
That would be a great example of needing multiple similiar clmmunities on different instances. If the userbase is in the hundreds of thousands, and it would make more sense to start a second community for the overflow, then you can.
But right now, I don’t see that as an issue Lemmy faces. I don’t think things should be spread out for the sake of preventing future problems, when you don’t have those problems now.
I like to think of it like a city. You don’t start building out the suburbs first. You build the city. Let the city grow, and when the city starts reaching max capacity, you build out the suburbs.
Also, forget roads. Everything is a single light rail transit car. The entire city, connected by a grid of rail. All using only 1 train. I’ve played Sim City on SNES. So I’m kind of an expert city planner.
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Anyone using the “cross-post” feature is doing things properly, so don’t worry, the person you responded to just left that part out. They might be on an extremely old app that hasn’t been updated to handle that feature - but you are good. Thank you for caring…and sharing:-).
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Thank you for the insight, I was wondering e.g. if changing the title of a cross-post would disable notification that it was a cross-post, but it sounds like not.:-)
Why do you say that?
I would argue that. There are some very technical communities, though they are rare