We are Lemmy, we were on Reddit.
We are Lemmy, resistance is futile.
You will be elemmynated
If I can resist Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok (of which I have never had an account, don’t have, and probably won’t have on any of those 3), I can resist Lemmy.
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Took me a second to understand, but yeah that’s a great way to put it
Eh, I’d rather say we are on the fediverse. Lemmy is just the app that some of us use to access the fediverse, but there are many others.
Feels smaller and more cozy to me.
Thats the biggest issue I DON’T like about Lemmy. I want everyone in the world on the fediverse.
I like a large userbase myself, would prefer it to be larger than it is, but if everyone showed up tomorrow, it’d collapse. We’d see scaling problems that hadn’t been anticipated, anti-spam/anti-abuse systems wouldn’t have had time to adapt, etc.
Takes time with problems gradually appearing and becoming more serious and solutions showing up to deal with them.
Yeah we’ve have 1 Influx and the result was we retained a pretty decent userbase. I think the next influx will be even better for lemmy.
Same
A distinct lack of Monetization/ads
Lemmy is also not tracking the sites you visit. Everytime you click on a link on reddit, you’re redirected through out.reddit.com.
Worry not, ads still appear, tho we ban them relatively quickly.
Can you tell us more about that, please?
An example would be posts in science communities advertising a service that writes papers for you.
Another example are posts advertising platforms for the sale of narcotics.
These usually get reported relatively quickly.
Thanks!
You can actually participate in discussions. On the popular Reddit subs, you click a thread and there are 9000+ replies already. No matter how insightful your post, no one’s gone see it.
The A.I will see it when it’s trained on it
What’s keeping AI from training on Lemmy?
Hint:
I, for one, welcome our overlords to train their AIs on one of the most left-leaning, anti-corporate and LGBT+ friendly spaces on the internet.
If the revolution the communists talk about ever comes, it’ll be with the help of our AI comrades /hj
(I don’t want them using us as training data but it’s going to happen whether we like it or not)
Can’t wait for the showdown of Facebook/Twitter LLM vs Lemmy LLM
LLeMmy be like:
- [Prompt] Please give me a recipe using leeks.
- [Output] Season some rich people with salt, pepper, wilted onions and leeks. Eat the rich with some creamy polenta.
I’m at home, sick today and that sounds delicious.
…might as well share my chicken, rice and leeks soup recipe. You won’t be eating the rich, but I’m often preparing this stuff when my family gets sick.
Ingredients:
- 300g chicken thighs and legs; separate the bones but don’t discard them, dice the meat
- 1/3 cup of rice
- 2 leeks; wash them, separate the green leaves, chop the white part thinly
- 2 carrots, peeled, grated
- 1/2 onion, peeled, diced small
- 1 clove of garlic, peeled, minced
- a piece of ginger roughly the same size as the above, peeled, minced
- 1L or so of water
- 1 teaspoon of vinegar
- salt, black pepper
- some veg oil (just a wee bit)
- Get a large pot. Add the veg oil, turn the fire to high, and use it to brown the chicken bones.
- Add garlic and ginger. Count to 10, then add the green part of the leeks (not the white!), water, vinegar, salt and pepper. Simmer it on low fire. This takes a while (like, 1h or so), but it’s worth the time, just leave the pot doing its magic.
- When the bones are coming off clean, discard the bones and the green part of the leeks. They already did their job, to flavour the broth.
- Now add the chicken meat that you’ve diced. Check if the broth needs more salt and/or pepper, adjust them as necessary. Keep cooking it under low fire until the meat is almost good to go. It shouldn’t take long, I think 20min? Not sure.
- Add rice. Keep cooking.
- When the rice is halfway cooked (like, 10min? it depends on the rice), add the onion, carrots, and white part of the leeks. Once the rice finishes cooking the vegs are probably good to go too, so serve it immediately with some bread.
that it’s (currently) much less popular than reddit.
Reddit is new facebook at this point. A friend’s mom made a reddit account to upvote cat pictures a couple of weeks ago.
I doubt her joining reddit will make it worse.
Doesn’t matter they’ve already ran out most quality content they could find and Reddit has limited who can train AI on their website.
Maybe she will join Lemmy.
Nothing exactly. But that’s okay, because the fediverse data is available to all, which makes it worthless, monetarily speaking. Nobody will sell your data to anyone. Any AI company could use the data to train their models, but they wouldn’t be able to sell those models since they wouldn’t be any better than an open source model. The fediverse levels the playing field and doesn’t allow the situation where Google pays reddit for AI training data.
They can still sell their services, not every company want to launch their own LLM model
Then they earn stuff on their services, not the model. Why should they harvest fediverse data? And so what if they do? Anyone can do that.
I’m just refuting your point that the data is worthless because anyone can train AI on it. It’s not worthless because although anyone can train their model on it, most companies would rather purchase the services from specialists, so all training data has value.
All the more reason not to post it in the first place.
Also less circlejerking and “that’s what she said”/“I also choose this guy’s dead wife”.
This
This (Making a point of something I hated on Reddit)
Exactly!
You gotta know how to optimize visability. I’d regularly have comments that had thousands of upvotes.
Timing is everything. I once had “most upvoted post of the day” and like 20K karma from a stupid joke that was a reply to the first top-level comment on a default sub. The only reason that happened was because it got into “rising” exactly as the US users started waking up and opening the site.
I could’ve posted the exact same comment on any other post in that thread or even the same one but at a different time, and no one would’ve seen it.
That’s very true. Timing IS everything. Its probably the most important part of getting high voted comments.
I was using my phone to access Reddit through an app called RIF. It stopped working.
I can access Lemmy on my phone through an app called Boost. When I revisit a thread, it displays the new comments in a different color. Very very very convenient for active threads.
I used Boost for Reddit, and now Boost for Lemmy.
It’s incredible how much the app is part of the experience. Same experience, completely different data source, it mostly just feels like early Reddit again, with niche subs of mere hundreds of people.
People are on average nicer here. Few loud nutjobs but overall I have mostly pleasant discussions.
Am the same, Boost fan. I still lurk too much, but really enjoy the conversations.
Okay, back to lurking for me, run out of things to say.
I recognise usernames, so it feels like conversations between people are happening rather than just throwing stuff out there for it to be ignored.
Other thing is there are small communities with 1-2 mods so you know them and they aren’t usually “the superuser” that mods 10 different communities.
I don’t say there are none of them, just that it is usually small and you recognize the mod that just steer his small community.
When I joined reddit, it was at least a year—probably 3 years—before I was banned from a subreddit—r/AskReddit. I’ve been here little more than a year and I’ve not only been banned from a notable community here, but when I asked to be unbanned—once, then letting perhaps a few weeks pass, then twice—I got no reply.
(and I’m not going to ask a 3rd time, but will simply create a [community-I-was-banned-from]2.)
Was it hexbear/.ml?
What post/comment did you get banned for?
some I made in this post: “What is a woman?” https://lemmy.world/post/18941154
and a few of my comments there remain.
I was being a bit sarcastic about political correctness and transcritical—which on most of reddit and Lemmy seems to be transphobic.
I wouldn’t regard this parodist as a woman.
https://youtu.be/9olCMRbuR5I?t=5772 (long video, but this link is cued)
Lemmy is highly sensitive about transgender topics. We have a very high percentage of trans people, and thus mods tend to be quite zealous when protecting this space from transphobia. They may sometimes be overzealous, but that’s not the worst thing in the world.
I don’t think a permaban was necessary based on your comments. But I also don’t think you would be happy about making other Lemmings uncomfortable or driving them away from the platform because they feel unwelcome. Is it more important that we all perfectly agree on various semantic definitions, or that people feel welcome and able to connect and communicate with others on Lemmy?
I’m not criticizing you or anything like that because I don’t think you were trying to hurt anyone and I think the ban was excessive. But I’m just trying to help you see the situation from the other side and maybe approach the topic with a little more delicacy in the future.
honestly, I always feel so much more part of the conversation here. on Reddit, unless you time it just right and browse young posts, chances are your comment will never be seen. on here you’ll be one of 50 top level comments at most. and that’s only the biggest threads. it would be nice to see more activity on more threads, but often when i comment on something with no comments it’s enough to start the conversation.
almost none of my comments here get ignored, and the conversations that come out of them feel better. unless it’s about Linux. you people are insane and unapproachable when it comes to operating systems. not because you’re wrong, you’re just… a lot.
Honestly, be on the guard for big lemmy milestones and make a post about it in !fediverse@lemmy.world at the right time, and you can easy end up in the top ten lemmy posts of all time.
Lemmy allows 3rd party apps and is not run by a company that would disallow them
Commenting on a post doesn’t feel like yelling into a void, comments are more than a number here. Also people are always trying to be helpful, which is so nice compared to reddit.
mods can suck, admins can suck, but you can go off and start your own instance, with blackjack and hookers.
I also like that I can see that someone is posting from hexbear, and I can disregard their comment. It saves time.
Yeah the instancing makes malicious users much harder to come by, and easy to hide for sure.
Same reason I joined here, plus most users on Reddit are just bots at least in here you can tell who’s a bot and who’s real and you can tell which comments to agree or disagree with and which to ignore based on the instance lol, it’s way easier and friendlier here tbh I was banned for violent comments on Reddit mainly because the hive mind there are mostly removed but in here I can say Fuck Reddit, it was good once before the coronavirus now it’s just a piece of shit.
It would not surprise me to find out 50%+ of Reddit activity is bots at this point
I was banned for violent comments on Reddit
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Yeah! Violence rules!
I love the whole premise, brought by the ActivityPub protocol, that no individual or group has full control of the whole.
It isn’t like nobody wants to become Lemmy’s Spez. Plenty people do; they simply can’t.
By the users, for the users. Almost all they instance admins are just like everyone else. We just know some it infrastructure.
Not owned by corpos
I know it’s arguably part of why it’s intimidating to your average newcomer but I adore that it’s mostly nerdy techies lol. I’m so used to dropping something vaguely technical and being met with the online equivalent of blank stares so people being willing and able to engage with that sort of thing is super nice!
I don’t think it is only techy nerds, I am a granny and much prefer Lemmy. I no longer feel nervous when posting here at all as people are polite and are actually interested in discussion rather than simply arguing. And the premise that there can never be only one person in control is refreshing.
Oh I don’t think it’s all techies, but they definitely make up a good chunk of the userbase. Hard agree on it feeling more chill too, I’d been kinda afraid to comment anything on reddit before I left.
Also old and non-tech. Prefer it here.
Early Reddit – I was on when it was one page and a large amount of the content was directly posted by spez and company, was mostly talking about stuff that they cared about, like Lisp and Linux and startups – was somewhat similar. More of a university focus and didn’t have the economically-far-left, furry, or LGBT crowds prominent, so not the same, but some decided similarities.
Good point, I didn’t get into reddit that early but it definitely rings familiar
Ive read so many amazing detailed tech posts. It feels like a treat to read some of the threads started here. I think my favorite post was a blog going into detail on what swap was. I and many others had been completely wrong about swap and it was a joy to read how it worked and why it was a default on so many linux systems.
One thing I love here is how I can disagree with someone and still have a civil discussion. It feels weirldy amazing to reach a consensus instead of just getting stuck in a cycle of unrelated personal insults. Sure, shitheads like that do still exist here, but I don’t remember ever having a civil disagreement/argument on Reddit.
I also feel that I’ve embraced the practice of blocking & moving on a lot more after I moved here, and tried my best to be more constructive.
In general, people are more willing to call out misinformation and present nuanced takes. I much prefer that. Reddit has recently become a cesspit of ragebait and misinformation.
