Would it matter which enterprise or star destroyer was used?
No - so long as the Federation has transporters and warp drive (realspace FTL in Star Wars lingo), they can probably pull it off.
If they could beef up their runabouts, that might help too.
Star Destroyer is HUGE.
One on one, i would put the Enterprise ahead. Starfleet shields and sensors would win the day.
However, a full conflict between the empire and the federation i would say the empire would come ouy ahead.
Yeah in a full galactic war, unless they give the federation time to assimilate the FTL tech of the empire they would win on logistics alone.
I think victory would go to the smaller, faster ship with stronger weaponry and defenses. So Enterprise vs a Star Destroyer, the Enterprise would come out on top.
It’d be like a fully maxed out and engineered Eagle against a Conda with no shields and only basic laser weapons in E:D.
Ok nerds, shut your goddamn months and listen up. This is how it goes.
It’s a Star Trek episode, cause no one left at Disney is clever enough to do this.
The Enterprise (who else) comes upon a transwarp tachion triangularity. Which Enterprise? I’ll get there. A ship, over 19 kilometers long, exits the thingo. A scan reveals that the weapons, although many, are paltry in strength. In fact the greatest threat to the Enterprise is straight up ramming the ships together, due to the incredible mass of the Super Star Destroyer.
Picard (you’re goddamn right) hails the ship, and Vader responds. They do the typical back and forth you’d expect, similar to the posturing of early TNG Romulan encounters. Because of Diabolus ex Machina, oh, sorry, the dark side, the Enterprise is crippled and all tactical advantage is lost. It takes about twenty minutes of tense music and two commercial breaks for Geordi to pull a counter Deus ex Machina out of his ass. There’s a brief salvo of blasters and photon torpedos, expending the last of the episode’s SFX budget. The Star Destroyer is forced back into the plot device. The last thing heard is Vader’s heavy breathing over the comms.
Both Riker and Troi have erections.
Picard somberly exits to the ready room to stare wistfully into space, as slow orchestral music plays in the background. As the credits roll, the music fades, and Darth Vader’s breathing is again heard.
Off screen, Riker changes his pants
Both Riker and Troi have erections.
ah yes, here’s how we know it’s genuine fan fiction, none of that “extended universe” generic stuff.
After all that heavy breathing something is extended
This is my favorite version of this encounter. Well done!
Sounds about right
My nerd herd have done this sci-fi “my dad can beat up your dad” scenerio a lot and we usually come to similar conclusions, and they all depend on the scale of whats involved and the objective
Trek wins the tech side and individual ship preformance, but if there an objective (other than disabling the other force) then Star Wars wins because their FTL is the best in most all of sci-fi and they would out logistics Trek. Even though they arnt included in the prompt, if the objective involved a ground team or invasion 40k would win (space marines are basicly walking tanks compared to other settings, and there are tons of them), and barring Master Chief being involved, the Halo setting sorta is behind the 8-ball compared to most other settings.
Firepower in Trek is absolutely comically more powerful than in Star Wars. Like to an absurd degree. From that perspective, it wouldn’t even be a fight.
Factor in transporters being able to do stuff like beam a photon torpedo onboard and it gets more comical.
That said, Star Wars ships (at least in hyperspace) are vastly faster than Star Trek ships, so I’d imagine that would be amazing in terms of warfare logistics.
Starfleet technically understands the Borg’s transwarp gateways by the time of the Enterprise E, thanks to Janeway, so even if it isn’t just a fundamental difference in the way physics works in the two universes, Trek has a route to match and exceed those speeds (instant travel transwarp being demonstrably possible in the trek universe).
All that said, I would relish a montage of some
High ElvesVulcans figuring out how the Force works and mastering it in a matter of days, if not hours, because they realize their people figured it out and then abandoned that tech centuries ago.[ Imagine a V’Shar operative doing a mind melt and you get the idea ]
Photon toroedoes are more powerful than nuclear warheads. A fleet of Star Destroyers are needed to Delta Zero a planet. Star Trek has shown many times a single ship armed with photon torpedoes can devastate whole planets.
Star Destroyers rely on swarms of TIE fighters, tiny unshielded ships. But ships from Starfleet have shown that their phasers are accurate enough to insta-zap such small craft in rapid succession.
Starfleet ships have firing arcs that cover almost every direction. A Star Destroyer’s underbelly is woefully sparse of turrets.
Star Destroyers are slow, sluggish things. Ships in Star Trek tend to be far more maneuverable.
A fully functional, fully shielded Star Destroyer can get completely disabled by a few ion bursts. Most ships in Star Trek have no such weakness.
The engagement range of ships in Star Trek is measured in thousands of metres, and most shots fired land pretty accurately. A Star Destroyer needs to be practically on top of its target to engage it, and most shots still miss.
Star Trek has transporters. Star Wars doesn’t even know what those are.
The only thing I see as an advantage for the Star Destroyer is that the Galaxy Class is a glass canon. Before the Dominion War they could dish out incredible amounts of firepower, but take very little.
Also, this is assuming this is only a contest of technology. If a Force user gets involved… Well, Star Trek has a history of always being at the mercy of entities with powers, rather than tech.
Remember in Iron Man when his suit pops up a row of bullets and shoots 7 guys at once? That’s a Federation exploration vessel vs. Tie Fighters vs.
Speaking of, it’s nonsensical that fighters have to point at each other Sopwith Camels. Just slap a phalanx gun in place of the R2 unit, drive straight through the enemy ships, done.
The answer to force users is the Greek gods like Olly or Apollo
… Wat…?
The greek gods are an alien race on Star Trek. They have cosmic powers. If that doesn’t do it for you then I’m sure we can rustle up a Q or 2.
I would pay good money to see a My Dinner With Andre but with Q and Palpatine.
What would win? 🚀
Disney and Paramount executives for creating the highest-grossing nerd movie of all time.
Star destroyers flit across the galaxy in hours. Federation ships take decades.
Regardless if enabled by Power or technology, the star destroyer has the advantage of time.
But hyperspace routes haven’t been mapped in the Star Trek universe, which levels the field quite a bit.
Also the Empire doesn’t have transporter tech, nor the ability to block it. Really the only thing stopping a Galaxy class starship from absolutely shellacking an ISD or even a SSD is the restraint of the captain in command.
Unless Thrawn has time to listen to Mozart, or the Force shows Darth Vader what and where the warp core is, the Empire will not win
Well fuck. Since when are the lanes literal lanes? (Like actual human year.)
I am not convinced Star Wars shields can’t block teleporters, if only by accident.
Anyway, thank you for the lore update.
Honestly it entirely depends on which universe the other winds up in. If the Enterprise popped into the Star Wars Galaxy they’d probably be screwed by the wonky laws of physics in what is essentially space fantasy land.
It’d be like a fully kitted marine dropping into the Forgotten Realms. Sure they could mow down a few guards, but pretty soon someone with 3/4 cover and spell sniper will cast fireball and poof, no more marine.
Eh buckle this…
Ludicrous speed, GO!!!
Depends on the scale between the two
The star destroyer is quite a lot bigger
Star Wars doesn’t have teleporters, ergo no shielding from them. Photon torpedo on the bridge of a destroyer. Fights over before you can finish your cup of Earl Grey.
They have shields though. Can you teleport through shields now?
Force choke your teleporter engineer. Game over. Game over.
O’Brien opens coms and says “harder”.
Star destroyer leaves, feeling a little gross.
That’s it, you win. Everybody go home
Have Data run the transporter and beam Vader directly into space. Vader’s 10,000KM from his ship before he realizes that Data doesn’t breathe. Even if Vader’s suit and powers allow him to survive, he’s just floating there watching the Star Destroyer blow up, if he can even see that far.
It seems pretty likely that the Force would enable Vader to be immune from a transporter.
Magic can be tricksy like that.
Can’t reliably shield against what you don’t even know exists IMO. Tech difference is too overwhelming there.
Force choke over several miles seems unlikely even for Darth Vader.
There’s also the issue of Vader not knowing that they have that technology, how it’s operated, and where that operator is in the ship.
A small away team could covertly transport aboard and disable the Star Destroyer’s weapons, while the captain keeps Vader’s attention on the bridge.
As for the issue of shields, those have always been less useful in SW than ST, so maybe a few well-placed blasts could disable those beforehand. Or they’re not strong enough to stop the transporter beam, or something else. Trek’s writers could probably come up with a decent enough excuse for it to work.
One line is star trek proves ST shield superiority:
lol beaten by 7 hours one post down
He’s done it before, over video call no less
Force choke over several miles seems unlikely even for Darth Vader.
Doesn’t he kill Admiral Ozzel that way?
That was already covered in Star Trek canon: https://youtu.be/oLGDKVJlqL0
Yeah, but isn’t kinda well established that the “lasers” in star wars are actually plasma guns and George Lucas is just a dumbass who doesn’t know how light works?
Since Star Trek shields can survive being inside a star’s corona, I doubt anything from Star Wars, with the possible exception of the Death Star, would even rattle the ship.
I mean George Lucas thinks ‘laser-brain’ is an insult when it sounds like someone who thinks quickly and with focus.
I’m pretty sure lucas could flip a switch
Haha, maybe Archer’s enterprise would be in trouble?
One skirmish? The star destroyer might get the upper hand by depleting the shields of the Enterprise with a crazy amount of fire from the insane amount of various TIE small craft deployed. For a short time. The shields of the Enterprise, however, would quickly adjust to the wavelengths used by the Empire (either automatically or by way of engineers) lasers. Within a minute, the entirety of the commanding officers on the star destroyer would be beamed on board the Enterprise and forced to stand down.
