• TheFrirish@jlai.lu
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    but getting blind drunk in the street every night for them is fine. Ridiculous.

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      Like smoking, alcohol is a huge industry in Japan. It’s “normal” for Japanese companies to addict their employees to their products and because the companies ARE the government, they enact incredibly protectionist laws like this to prevent external competition.

      Their economy depends on it. It’s super gross. Like America and guns, or Sweden and flatpak furniture (the last one is a half joke)

      If Japan starts being a cannabis producer, they’ll 180 so fast you’ll get vertigo.

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      I was shocked at how often you just see people laying passed out on the sidewalk or sleeping on a bench. Japan is an insanely different place after the bars start closing. Was genuinely uneasy with how many people everywhere just had zero control of themselves.

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      There’s a reason why countries with proper transit infrastructure view alcoholism as a novelty.

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        I’m honestly not sure what you’re saying. Countries like the US with poor public transit infrastructure think alcoholism is serious solely because of people who drink and drive?

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      Honestly, i think the reason is that just the right amount of alcohol dependency is amazing for capitalism. Dont get me wrong, I’m not judging anyone. I understand and I enjoy a drink myself. I just think we need to be honest with ourselves about it.

      It keeps you consuming and it makes you forget all the bullshit you had to put up with all day. It dulls your your problem solving, your creativity and (most importantly) your empathy, so supervisors, middle managers, department managers and execs are less disinclined not to beat down on those below them.

      I’m not saying its some grand conspiracy. I’m saying, those in power have known exactly the right drugs to administer to the masses in order to placate them. The Romans knew to give wine and not cannabis. The British army knew to give rum & brandy but not weed.

      In fact, all of them were legal. Then, capitalism really took off and, totally unrelated in sure, every drug other than alcohol suddenly became illegal.

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    I work at a company that has big offices in Japan and the US (as well as many other places) and it’s pretty interesting to see the contrasts in living standards and expectations up close.

    On the one hand, when coworkers visit from Japan they are disgusted by how dirty, unsafe, and uncourteous the US is by comparison. They complain endlessly about the low quality standards of the food. I picture myself having to pick worms and hair out of everything and that’s what things seem like from their perspective.

    But then some of them move to the US because they can’t handle the stuffy, oppressive attitude in Japan. Everything is about what you can’t do or aren’t supposed to do. One guy said he was so relieved to go to the US where people know how to say “we can find a way to do that.”

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      From your description alone, knowing only the US and not Japan, it sounds like Europe is the middle ground. Not as free, but less socially oppressive. I mean, in Japan it’s mean to walk while you eat… how deep is the interference running?

      Edit: Am from Europe, sorry should have added this.

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        There are two kinds of freedom, negative and positive liberty. US has a lot of negative liberties, they dictate little in what you can or cannot do, but is lacking in positive liberty, they don’t support you very well to do what you want to do.

        While Europe might have less negative liberty, their generally better social welfare system grants people more positive freedom.

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          Yes the Bill of Rights are specifically what the government can not do to / take away from you. They are individual rights and liberties.

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    Part of the world: takes a step forward

    Japan: not on my fucking watch

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    Wasn’t it already illegal. My wife’s cousin served two years for an amount that is so small police wouldn’t even bother to confiscate it in europe.

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      Yeah, it’s news to me that it wasn’t technically illegal. They still believe in the reefer madness shit and act like it.

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    While the possession and cultivation of marijuana are already banned in Japan, the country will prohibit its use as well, setting a prison sentence of up to seven years for violation.

    Ok, so that clears that up.

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    The pant is illegal because it’s cheap to grow yourself, but if you let some drug companies make money off of processing it, then it’s perfectly fine to use…

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      “A plant known for opening the mind and making you question things? That’s illegal.”

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          Weed makes you question if you should get more snacks

          I haven’t tried it in a really long time though but I didn’t really like it very much. Not that I think it’s bad, but it’s a downer and they’re just not my favorite.

          Acid and 2C-B on the other hand, man. Haven’t tried other psychs unfortunately but I find them both great for their individual effects. Unfortunately, there’s the huge stigma around psychs in general plus the naturalistic crowd that makes up a proportion of psych users will only accept stuff like shrooms, peyote and ayahuasca.

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        Could you please elaborate on how it “opens” your mind and makes you question things?

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          As a teen, the main question I had was, “can I make a pipe out of this?”.

          Now that I’m old, the question is mostly “why the hell is this still illegal on a federal level?”

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          It’s hard to explain. At least for me, it helps me see things from another perspective. I work in web dev, and one of my favorite activities is to smoke a little bit, then work on my side projects. Some of my best work has come from my hyper focused, high, programming sessions.

          Weed really kinda follows you wherever you take it. If you wanna veg out on the couch and watch TV, it’ll facilitate that for you. If you wanna go down a research rabbit hole on some obscure topic, it’ll facilitate that just fine too.

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    I don’t like weed. I’ve tried it throughout my teens, but left it there.

    With that said, it’s amazing to me that we’re still having the same conversations around drugs. Decriminalise EVERYTHING! Ensure what is on the market is clean, drive the costs down to remove criminals from the market, and dedicate every police force to protecting those on the bottom rung of the drug ladder.

    I read a book from a former officer a while back, where he’d spent two years working on infiltrating a drug network. It was successful, and they not only shut down a major network of drugs, but arrested around 100 people, and removed tons of illegal weapons from the market, and arrested several people in the network known to police for being involved in several murders. They believed that the drug market in the UK during this time had been disrupted “for three hours”. That was all it took for another gang to take over, and apparently it’s those successes that cause a lot of people to leave drug enforcement - after all, what’s the point?

    There almost seems to be zero benefit to drug criminalisation, other than “old conservatives hate it”.

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      The police love drug criminalization because it gives them widespread latitude to hassle pretty much anybody they feel like whenever they feel like, because “drugs could be involved.” Marijuana especially, since stoners are generally fairly nonthreatening folks but “I smelled marijuana” is a zero-effort way to instantly manufacture a fictitious probable cause for anything.

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        Ah, the “I smelled marijuana” card. That’s the lie they used to completely search my vehicle and test my saliva. Only to find I did a small amount of cocaine a week earlier. No drugs were found, and the “smelled marijuana” magically disappeared from the police report. I got a €1600 fine for DUI. My lawyer tried fighting the lie but because they found traces of cocaine use it was dismissed (zero tolerance). Just like that. I was completely sober.

        For anybody wondering, the amount they found was a third of the amount that clinical studies define as the absolute minimum of waste product that is produced to feel the slightest of effects. So even if it was from usage when I was driving, that wouldn’t even have been enough to feel any effects. I was completely sober, but because I’m a young adult male that doesn’t play along with their power play, I’m marginalized and unlawfully handled.

        They make us criminals but we know better.

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      Rich corporations and people profit, everyone else is criminalized for reasons.

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      This is to close off profit to anyone but those selected. They know they are going to incarcerate more people, too.

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    1a. It’s a relatively small incentive to get people to emigrate, particularly the young.

    2b. wp:Cannabis in China

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    In 1985, the People’s Republic of China joined the Convention on Psychotropic Substances and identified marijuana as a dangerous narcotic drug, and illegal to possess or use it. The penalty for marijuana possession in China is disputed from various sources, but according to the Law on Public Security Administration Punishments, marijuana smokers shall be detained for 10 to 15 days and fined a maximum of 2,000 yuan.[16][17] However, the cultivation of cannabis for industrial purposes (hemp) has never been prohibited in China.[1]

    On another hand, cannabis seeds have been continuously listed in the Chinese Pharmacopeia[18] and hemp has never been prohibited in the history of the country.[19]