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Summary
Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.
His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.
Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.
Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.
“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.
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Oh yes, just “the bad hombres”. /s
So, the leopards are coming for the faces, huh? Who would’ve guessed?
Bender laugh.jxl
Leopards like all kinds of faces.
Like the German version of Nazis before them, they aren’t coming for their biggest target first. They’re coming for their political opposition, the “abortionists”, the atheists, the drug users, the mentally ill…
RFK Jr.:
“I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,”
Re-education camps, huh.
Nazism 2: The Brainworm Boogaloo
Genuinely going to be interesting to see how these fuckwads manage anything, not just this fascism bullshit. Like honestly, at least most of the higher ranked Nazi officials were pretty intelligent (albeit evil.)
To trump, every immigrant is a criminal.
Saying “the legal ones are welcome” is a smokescreen.
Nah he is telling the truth, he will simply change the law to make most immigrants illegal.
“The legal ones are welcome” is the “there will be exceptions for rape and incest” of anti-immigration rhetoric. It was always a lie meant to placate those with a few remaining shreds of a conscience.
Except his wife, I’m sure. She’s one of the “good ones”.
Don’t forget about first lady elonia
Who did you think I meant?
Good luck with that. If you voted for him you’re an even more gullible dipshit than seems possible.
It is absolutely disgusting how many people are letting their disappointment and fear turn into vindictiveness and anger.
They’re undocumented immigrants. By definition they didn’t vote for him, and you should really do some introspection to figure out why this is the first thought you had.
Naturalized immigrants, who do vote, often have family members and/or friends that are now on the chopping block. A lot of them voted for Trump thinking they were getting rid of the “bad” immigrants.
Fascists also tend to take a “kill them all, let God sort them out” approach to things like this.
Here legally but the wrong shade of brown? Maybe your English is too accented? “Don’t worry the arrest is just preventative, once they prove they’re here legally (from the camp, with no resources, assistance, or access to their documentation) they’ll be returned to their community.”
Except they won’t. Oopsie, gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.
Some people talk like we didn’t see this shit play out 90 years ago.
Okay.
So you are suggesting that an appropriate response to a humanitarian crisis is “good luck with that” because…some of their relatives voted Republican?
Do you feel responsible for all of your relatives, or is it just immigrants?
You’re putting words in my mouth. I was responding directly to your point about how undocumented immigrants can’t vote and nothing else. I feel very bad for the people that are going to be affected directly. Honestly, everyone is going to be affected in some way.
Centrists would rather blame people who cannot even vote than admit that moving to the right has failed.
You do know he’s going to change it do nationalized citizens are not citizens anymore right? If being born here doesn’t count as being a citizen, and this is retroactive, what does count?
Maybe you should get off the MAGA train and look around.
How DARE you call me MAGA for advocating for compassion? Get bent.
You’re not advocating compassion, you’re telling us to calm down, and be like you–apathetic.
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If someone voted or prefers for bad stuff to affect the whole country, then I see nothing wrong with preferring them to be the one to personally experience it.
If 51/100 people voted to throw a random citizen into a volcano to make God happy, I would hope that the person that gets thrown in is one of those 51 people, and not one of the other 49.
If someone can’t vote because but still holds harmful views, it doesn’t make them any less deserving of finding out they are wrong. If you wish harm on others, I’m not going to coddle you when you’re sad you personally got harmed.
What part of “undocumented immigrants can’t vote” did you miss there?
You’ve constructed this image of undocumented immigrants who support Trump, which is plainly stupid. In any group, maybe some people are idiots. But you’re trying to pretend that that’s ALL undocumented immigrants, masking your bloodthirst behind a few “If” statements.
Volunteer for a local charity that helps immigrants. If you see a bunch of MAGA caps then you might have something to say. I don’t expect that to happen.
Do they not realize that he and his core audience believe the greatest crime a person can commit is not be born white?
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“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.
Oh Carlos, mi dulce niño del verano …
imagine being that gullible
Carlos, for the 2570th time, you are free to go chico! Thanks for only being an immigrant and not a criminal immigrant. Our criminal tags are pretty good and you don’t have any. See you tomorrow before work again? 😊 You too man! 😀 Oh what an inspiration of a person!
He will have a rude awakening, more like the law being rammed on his anus along with an one way ticket
Any of these people who think Trump gives a damn about citizen status is a absolute moron who’se never paid attention to anything he said or did about immigration. He’s a white supremacist and will push for policies that align to that. Illegals will get deported, but any excuse to revoke or ignore legal status of other non-whites will be aggressively pursued. He’s already established concentration camps in his first term, despite those people being legal asylum seekers, and you can bet he’ll do that again. And if his administration can’t find legal means to remove them from the country they are going to find more excuses for brutal treatment with “unfortunate loss of life to those who don’t cooperate fully”
I know y’all want to make this a stupid voters leopards ate my balls post but these are undocumented people. They can not vote and had no say in the election.
Remember the old maxim: “no one hates new immigrants more than old immigrants”… Their fellow legalized immigrants supported this outcome as well
100%. My wife’s family ALL came illegally. I think it’s like 7-10 people, the last one got naturalized like 4 years ago. All but a couple voted for trump and their stance on it is “oh well we got lucky that’s just how it is. They need to come legally”
I had no words after that.
I’m sorry, my “give a fuck” stopped working just after the election results came in.
Trump promised to deport illegals and even “denaturalize” certain citizens. He wants to deport 20 million illegal immagrants separate family and put the in camps while awaiting deportation. None of this was a secret, they fucking bragged about it.
Trump gained 14 points nationally with Hispanics. I hope he goes balls to the fucking wall and drops the hammer. May the people get exactly what they voted for.
Meanwhile, I’m going to do the best to make sure me and mine are taken care of. Stock up on toilet paper, N95 masks, freeze dried food and bullets. It’s gonna be lit!🔥
The only difference between you and a Republican is your rhetoric then.
Go fuck yourself
No u
Always has been
I get that TikTok, YT Shorts, and FaceBook slowly removes attention span, but how the fuck does it cause Amnesia for everything that happened before 2020?
Trump literally removed holding time limitations and changed the Criminal Only ICE focus of previous administrations so they could put women and children in cages deport children alone to random South American nations citing some ancient treaties.
This already fucking happened. All of it.
Lots of people still thought Trump was running against Biden when they cast their vote.
At this rate, I suspect that a good number also thought Obama was still in office.
Thanks, Obama…
don’t know about this far off, but I witnessed some people blame obama when biden was first in office.
Tbf Kamala did nothing to distance herself from Biden policy wise.
I agree, she did poorly
“Why didn’t literally everyone tell me that the racist genocidal maniac was a racist genocidal maniac?”
INCLUDING the racist, genocidal maniac?!?1?
I’m honestly terrified as a naturalized citizen that he’s going to either try to revoke my citizenship or ignore it altogether :/
Birthright citizenship is on the chopping block
If they’re allowed to carry out their plans in full, will there even BE any path to citizenship?
Depends - are you white, rich, male, speak English and at least a touch racist yourself?
If not - na, probably not.
I’m doing my part!
How willing to work the fields are you? Not? Then you are deported!
“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.
So long, Carlos.
I’m still trying to understand this belief that he is good for the economy. He’s a failed business man who bankrupted a casino. His successful businesses are all grifts and money laundering. To say nothing of how our economy tanked after 4 years of his failed trade wars and 2+2=7 tax plan.
Fear will make people easy prey for bad actors. Ignorance helps too.
Carlos can’t vote, but a majority of both Latino men and Latino women voted for Kamala.
The only majority that voted for Trump is white people.
“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy.”
I think you missed this part.
That’s what I was responding to. Carlos is explaining why more Latino voters voted for Trump than last election cycles. A majority of both Latino men and women voted for Harris though.
Trump was talking about the economy while Harris was busy pivoting to the right and embracing dick Cheney and her CEO’s
Harris lost more voters from this pivot than she gained from trying to cozy up to literal republicans.
Yes, I assume Trump was lying about how he will help people by fixing the economy, but at least he was lying about the issues that these voters had at the top of their list of priorities. Harris wouldn’t even lie to address any issues her base cares about.
“We want our polticans to be honest!”
Democrats: “fine… but you wont like the truth”
I do think democrats and the left in general do hold their reps to a higher standard. It’s a good thing…… but lol
Edit: this is funny because Harris was actually being 1000% more honest by embracing dick Cheney and the corporate ceos and Israel.
Edit: 100,000
So… it’s better to lie?
In my opinion? No, but I don’t think people pay as much attention to news and politics as I do.
Most people are just trying to live their lives. Like 2/3 Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. They don’t have time to read news either that or they’ve been lied to for so long they don’t give a 💩.
I’m just saying, at least Trump was talking about the number one issue these voters cared about, while Kamala was saying she couldn’t think of a single thing she would have done differently than Biden. She pivoted to the right and they kept walz in the basement playing video games. She embraced corporate ceos and dick Cheney. She wouldn’t even lie to us about ending the genocide.
I was willing to vote for Harris if she even lied about ending support for Israel and the genocide, but she wouldn’t even do that.
Thankfully I live in a blue state and I was able to avoid having to vote for her. I would have if there were any chance she would have lost my state.
I’ll ask again?
In this situation, you’re suggesting that it’s better to lie?
Trump lied. Period. End of story. And these people will pay the price for believing him when there was plenty of evidence readily accessible for them to know better.
And then you say you’d have voted if Kamala had lied? WTF? Do you understand that you just illustrated how she was fucked either way?
We were in the eleventh hour of the survival of our democracy. A democracy that was about to fall into the hands of someone that admitted they would be a dictator.
We are now in the hands of that dictator all because in your opinion- Kamala should have been like trump:
A liar.
What I’m saying is that I think so many US citizens who are elligible to vote are disillusioned with the politicians always following the donor class and letting us all down that people in general will vote for a leader who speaks well and makes vague promises, as we learned with Obama.
Now though we are closer to that one movie where the man and woman are in a time capsule and they water the crops with Gatorade lol.
Now you just have to make vague promises you don’t have to even be able to speak well. Look at gw jr
Nah. Your flawed presumption here is that we live in a world where everyone tells the truth.
Trump was talking about issues that voters care about.
Harris was bragging about how she’s supported by dozens of CEO’s, and how the Cheney family and mitt Romney endorse her. Trump pivoted, Harris committed to the donors.
Neither budged on Israel.
Kamala pivoted towards donor class in the final weeks, Trump pivoted talking about canned beans and how everything is more expensive.
Most people live paycheck to paycheck, they don’t understand what Biden administration was doing to help the economy, they just know it sucks, and dems keep asking for everyone to vote for the lesser of two evils.
How many people lost access to the child tax credit during his administration. Where is the footage of him calling out members of congress who allowed this to happen?
Part of the disconnect is that most Americans have been removed from the stock market.
The economy is a whole lot of bullshit when you live in a bush on fifth avenue and Trump is walking into the middle of the street with a gun. (I’m suggesting that I am the bum Trump could kill on fifth avenue according to his quote or whatever)
I think people are sick and tired of living paycheck to paycheck, I also remember that a lot of kids weren’t paying attention in school.
Let’s just agree that it’s the ones who voted for Trump that are the problem, not anyone else. I don’t care what ethnicity someone is, but it really stretches my compassion to have sympathy with any Trump voters that suffer predictable results.
Kamala told us she was allies with Dick Cheney while we are in the middle of supporting a genocide.
No. I do not support Harris. This loss is hers.
If you do not have sympathy for working families then you are not in my party.
I see that as two different categories. If I have to choose, then yeah, I blame Kamala. It’s ultimately the politician’s job to reach people. Kamala failed spectacularly, with the help of the party establishment and corrupt consultants.
What I said is that it stretches my compassion to have sympathy for Trump voters. The Republican brand is all about othering and blaming the powerless. Every Trump voter with two braincells was more than happy to see some other group suffer, assuming they themselves would be spared. Sure, I still have some level of compassion, but not a shred of respect.
Okay, fine!
Let’s blame it on white people!!!
Lol
I say blame it on the DNC and Harris herself.
But sure why not. More accurate than blaming latino and or black or Muslim citizens
Biden also gets loads of blame for being an egotistical piece of shit and not dropping out in time for a primary.
Is that Biden’s fault or the DNC? Is he de facto leader of the DNC as president.
Even a fake primary would have been better than what they did.
I was hoping to see the Hippy and Cornell West debate Biden. Would have been great.
Edit: Maryanne Williamson or something her name the hippy I mean
