I just got permanently banned from a community for making a single harmless remark on a single post that was right there in the main feed. It’s not a community I’m super active in so it’s not like devastating, but it is annoying
If your precious little community is full of so many delicate sensitive people who can’t even be reminded that another viewpoint even exists, then you should really protect them by defederating and having everyone join your private website
The mod has literally removed like 75% of the comments and banned everyone lol
I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t have time to read every rule for every community that pops up when I’m in view all
I defended @beaver@lemmy.ca when a comment of theirs was reported.
I was just given context on this. Looking at their comments in that light, I have decided to ban them from !unpopularopinion@lemmy.world for all their bad faith arguments. Banning people for “bad faith” voting is bullshit. Coming here to defend that horrible action will not be tolerated.
Thank you and good riddance to @beaver@lemmy.ca, when you look at the amount of subs she is modding, it’s quite worrying. It makes me wonder if she does anything else with her time.
We’re talking about u/beaver aren’t we?
One of the things I disliked about Reddit was the self righteous power mods that turned the site in to an echo chamber.
If you can’t handle a counter point that’s been made in good faith, then get off of the soapbox.
Meat eaters engage in the 300+ logical fallacies more often than enough in my experiences.
Removed by mod
I never care about these posts unless you share what you posted.
Too Many times the “it was just a little joke bro” turns out they called someone’s dog the N word or something and understand why they got banned.
“What it wasn’t like I said it about a person, just a ***** dog”
So, have fun OP, but making this post makes me doubt you more than them if you’re not going to recount any details at all.
Feel free to check the modlog.
Butthurt Beaver has also been banning anyone who dares vote incorrectly.
how
admins of other instances can see who voted, and what they voted. You can easily build a self-hosted copy so you’re an admin, federate with Lemmy.world, and see who is voting on a post/comment.
Mods cannot see who votes on a post/comment, so this is the only way.
Seriously these mods ban you for literally nothing. I think they’re worse on here than they ever were on Reddit. Bunch of fucking children I swear to God.
edit Oh hey now I’m banned from c/vegan too. I wasn’t even talking about them. They’re even worse I guess.
Wait, did you post there, or did you get banned there, for this post HERE?
Oohh let’s try an experiment. I have never been to c/vegan even though my stepson and his wife are vegan so I guess I might have a reason to … sorta.
Anyway here goes. … Hey c/vegan, the one mod over there is a completely douchebag and should just stop being a right cunt. Please ban me until they fuck off.
How do you find out if your banned?
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Go there and try to vote on something or comment on something, it will immediately tell you if you are banned
Picked a few random top posts and up/down voted a few. Nothing yet.
You’re too late. The butthurt Beaver has been banned.
I have no idea when I was banned from there. I assume it was this post, cuz I don’t think I’ve ever posted there before. I just noticed when I tried to upvote a thread earlier it wouldn’t let me so I assume this is where it came from.
Was it c/vegan because there is apparently a mod there who has gone off the deep end and is banning anyone who downvotes let alone comments. They are hermetically sealing the c/vegan echo bunker.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t have time to read every rule for every community that pops up when I’m in view all
This is exactly what made subreddits turn into an indistinguishable mush once they start reaching the front page. A way to not have your community show up in All would be nice, or to make posts read-only unless you’re subscribed.
Absolutely agreed. Unlike reddit, there’s nothing between “private” and “everyone”. Reddit had a feature that subs could avoid the front page no matter how popular a post got, but Lemmy doesn’t have that, so every post shows up on everyone’s all.
That would be nice
You’re gonna see that a lot on Lemmy unless you fall in line and don’t say anything they wanna call a “dog whistle”.
Man… Mods just make shit up when they ban mostly.
Reviewing modlog is very telling. Reddit mod culture is svery strong here but at least now we have reciepts.
News and politics subs are just DNC shill ops at this point. Block and don’t give them engagement.
I understand that we are pro kamala here but a shill op is a shill op. I expect people here to know better.
You’d have loved to s see the mod log for r/Artisanvideos. So many people thought it was the ideal place to plug their shit with high traffic and low post count. I was not polite about banning them. Especially stupid goddamn Gruyere cheese. I had to blacklist their YouTube channel.
I’ve never come across a friendly vegan community. I’m not exactly looking for one but the ones that make themselves known tend to have extreme takes. There’s nothing wrong being vegan but their online community sure feels they’re going about it the wrong way, being overly dismissive and defensive rather than open and helpful.
You are now banned from c/vegan
It can depend on how one interacts with the community as those who are open-minded are often welcomed and taught the ethical ways of doing things.
lol. “If you agree with us, you can stay.”
That’s why we have the vegan community for vegans and open-minded meat eaters.
As long as the carnitas keep their dirty, meaty mouths shut, right?
People with speciesist tendencies are not allowed on the community however if they have an open mind sure!
So why have a community on a federated instance? Why ban people for passive participation?
People need to learn about the vegan subculture. Why should a community shut itself down because others cant handle different ideas.
They are echo bunkers. They only want comments and identity validating upvotes that whole throatedly support the orthodoxy of the echo bunker but they want to spread their extremist message by commenting on and brigading posts that they don’t like in other communities to try to bully, shame, and harass others into adopting their extremist quasi-religion and join their echo bunker.
☝️what this person said. Sums uo entire “culture”
Tankies going around in pacts copy pasting same fucking shiti arguments and links with a bridgade for upvotes and downvotes.
News and politics subs same thing.
Was it on the vegan community? I bet it was on the vegan community.
Their echo chambers are lined with the same material the tankies use in their communities.
I feel like the Internet doesn’t have that fuzzy but between public and private spaces like real life does. Some people want their public space to be like a Marxist book store on a side street to a Main/High Street. Sure, people can come in to read the literature and talk about the books there. However, if someone comes in wanting to discuss the merits of Ayn Rand, they are probably going to be kicked out.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure I just got banned from that community and I’ve literally never posted in it. I’ve downvoted some posts, but they’re all pretty antagonistic, so what else else am i gonna do when it shows up in my feed?
so what else else am i gonna do when it shows up in my feed?
Block it?
I guess I could, but I don’t feel the need to turn my feed into an echo chamber. I’m not going to go to the community to pick a fight, but I’m not going to hide from content I don’t agree with. I’ll just downvote it and move on. Besides, the OP is right; if the mods don’t want their community to get downvoted, it’s their responsibility to make their community private, not my responsibility to block their shitty content.
Private requires you to add everyone as a mod. I’ve only seen private communities used as single person kind of blogs, otherwise it’s unsustainable to have 50-100 mods
Alright, well I didn’t realize creating a private community was such a hassel, but I still don’t see why I’m expected to hide from this community when they post antagonistic shit. If they want to insult people who eat meat, fine, but then you have to deal with the fact that the people you just insulted might downvote you. It’s not my job to help them insulate their echo chamber.
Then you get banned, and then the matter is solved?
…or you don’t start a public community on a public website if you don’t want input from the public? Also, the other mods on /c/Vegan removed the Mod responsible for this ban wave, so it seems like they agree with me that downvotes aren’t grounds for community bans. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
woke nazis along side the conservative ones.
same shit different pile and those in the middle are stuck.
I’m sorry to report that I’ve down voted you, as I think this is a popular opinion. But I 100% agree with you. If you don’t want outside voices, don’t allow outsiders in.
If you need to be in control of community policies then go start one so that you can be in charge of it.
Otherwise have a nice day!
If people do not want to engage with c/vegan in good faith or follow the rules then it’s best to move on.
Voting on content that is in the Lemmy feed is engaging in good faith. That’s what the voting system is for.
What is not good faith is suppressing anyone who doesn’t 100% agree with what your community is for
Shouldn’t votes be about how good it fits the community, instead of how good it fits All? …maybe those two types of votes should be counted separately, All votes for how high it should rank on All and subscriber votes for everywhere else.
Did you just ban me from the community because I downvoted one of your comments?
All I ever did in the community was downvote you and now I can’t post or vote there 😂
You’re ignoring the rules for your own temper tantrums.
If you can’t handle good faith arguments then you should get off of your soapbox.
This has been reported. I may not agree with all they say, but I do agree on following the rules. This is why I don’t engage with the vegan community.
I appreciate that approach however if the Lemmy World admins want to use heavy handed tactics on a misunderstood minority community protecting their users once again the whole fediverse will be watching and will have further documented evidence of admin misconduct. c/vegan believes in the protection of animal and human rights.
if the Lemmy World admins want to use heavy handed tactics on a misunderstood minority community protecting their users
on a misunderstood minority community
You’re just really vocal about your diet, you’re not a protected minority nor should you be lmao. Trying to equate yourself with being black, LGBT or having some other inherent, immutable property that leads to people getting murdered, raped, beaten, abused, fired, jailed, tortured, sold into slavery or many other things throughout the world, is kinda fucking offensive.
Veganism is a philosophy not a diet. Vegans are often discriminated against as our freedom of speech is often silenced and the community is often slandered. Many vegans were arrested for protesting and for recording what occurs inside factory farms.
You have no qualms about not following your own rules.
I’d love to know what my “Rule 5” violation was for
it’s best to move on.
Indeed. That community is not breaking any instance rule, why are people so obsessed with it
I have no obsession with the community. It just draws attention when people start getting bans for “rule violations” they didn’t commit.
Rules can be as strict as the mods want them to be as long as they do not break the instance rules
I agree.
If they want the rule to be “No downvoting Beaver” then they should make the rule “No downvoting Beaver” and stop banning people for Rule 5 violations they didn’t commit.
Because it’s obnoxious.
And while it may not break rules, it goes against the spirit of online forums and discussion to ban people and prevent discussion just because they respectfully disagree with you.
Also, Lemmy has an issue if a post can gain traction because mods just block anyone who downvotes, preventing them from voting on further posts.
This wave of banning is quite strong, let’s be honest.
But I’ve seen trans communities banning people who “respectfully disagreed with them” while pushing anti-trans agenda.
Also, Lemmy has an issue if a post can gain traction because mods just block anyone who downvotes, preventing them from voting on further posts.
This would also require upvotes from other people, which I don’t think they are getting so far
Veganism in general goes against what the average person was taught when they were growing up. As people mistakenly believe that by going vegan they’re giving up delicious foods and a happy life.
Vote score on this comment really proving the point that this type of moderation is necessary. If you don’t want a community in your feed block it, it is not everyone else’s responsibility to cater to the hivemind.
