Last weeks thread - 10 Comments

Dungeon Meshi is a well liked manga, and an adaptation by Studio Trigger is now airing. If you haven’t picked this one up, consider joining us. Both for fun and as a way of contributing to activity on Lemmy.


HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT!

I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THE PAINTING CHAPTER! THIS EPISODE IS FULL OF LORE, GUYS!

Let’s hear your theories on what the past events in the paintings are about, and what significance the people in them had.

The gang has some trouble finding food, but things work out before long. Laios learns that despite being the party leader, he is the youngest. Marcille is a round 50, while Senshi is 112. That leaves Laios at 26, three years younger than Chilchuck.


Remember not to spoil anything if you’re a manga reader, but feel free to elaborate on tidbits of lore that may not be coming through in the adaptation.

  • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPM
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago
    More depictions of a winged lion.

    I had no memory of Derghal being mentioned in the paintings. That’s such a cool detail about the old kingdom.

    Chilchucks suffering at the hands of traps and his party, continues, and we again see many trademark Trigger facial expressions :D Marcilles voice has real concern in it when she though Chilchuck was dead, and I found it really fun how he the first thing he does after nearly dying is to start repairing his gear. And Marcy helps out.

    And Marcille is so damn cute! Finally seeing her animated and voiced continues to be a complete delight! Sleepy pajama Marcy makes me feel things :D

    Three images

    Also this:

      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        Ur spoilers don’t work.

        The start needs to be ::: spoiler and then the end can be just :::. I think the end and start needs to be on their own lines, as well.

        You can also give it a title like in my comment, by writing it after spoiler.

          • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPM
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            No. The word spoiler is part of it. The start is ::: spoiler and then then the end is just :::.

            If you want it to have a title you do: ::: spoiler Title goes here, after the word "spoiler"

            That results in this:

            Title goes here, after the word "spoiler"

            This was hidden! And you’ll notice that the word “spoiler” before the title doesn’t show up, it’s part of the spoiler formatting.

            You can also look at how my actual spoilers are formatted by using the raw text button in the webUI to see how it’s done. Or just use the spoiler button to insert one in some clients.

            • earlgrey0@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              11 months ago

              I am having trouble since your spoiler tags don’t appear to work on my instance or app, unclear which. Thanks for helping me debug

              Visible Text

              Hidden text, maybe? Or something.

              • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPM
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                11 months ago

                That one works.

                Instance doesn’t matter. What app are you using?

                Some don’t support spoilers as the formatting is not standard markdown, but Thunder for example is getting it in the next update.

                Already working for me as I am on the pre-release version.

    • wjs018
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      My favorite Marcille face this time was when she was chowing down on the mimic leg like it was an ear of corn or something like that:

      Even though she wasn’t a focus this episode, she continues to be a highlight.

  • Lvxferre
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    11 months ago

    Those folks never ate crab, right? Gently break the carapace of the mimic with the tools, instead of using them to “fish” the meat. And if you turn the joints in a certain way, you’ll probably be able to pull all the meat at once.

    The idea of eating inside the paintings was fucking dumb… well, it’s from Laios so appropriate. If you can’t bring items out, of course the stuff that you eat in the painting remains in the painting, you’re just fooling your senses.

    And the dark elf being able to remember what he saw in other paintings. That’s going to be important later on.

  • wjs018
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    11 months ago

    The paintings portion of this episode is pretty obviously important lore information, even to an anime-only like me. I knew instantly that the old man (the king) was going to be important because of his VA. I know that old-man voice anywhere, it is Houchuu Ootsuka, who you might know as Jiraiya (at least that is the character I always most closely associate him with).

    So, for some reason, that jester is able to recognize that Laios is not like the rest of the people in the painting world and is even able to carry through memories between the different paintings. I have consumed enough fantasy in my life and played/ran enough D&D campaigns to know that is significant. My guess is that, like our intrepid party, that Jester character (do they have a name yet?) is day-tripping in the paintings just like Laios. However, the fact that they didn’t have a rope or something to get out tells me they may have some amount of control over what happens in the paintings. Also, the other painting people acted like they belonged there, so they probably lived through the events being depicted. Perhaps they are reliving significant memories a la Dumbledore at the pensieve and our brave party leader kept hopping in and disrupting things?

    The mimic part of the episode was interesting. First, I have to say that Trigger really put a lot into Chilchuck’s action sequences. They got real cartoony with how much he was squashed/stretched/smeared. Just look at how he flattens against the wall when he runs into it trying to get away from the mimic:

    I hadn’t thought of mimics as hermit crabs before, but it makes a lot of sense. Also, treasure bugs are like predatory wasps to mimics. There is a whole ecosystem being built in this show. I guess something like the paintings is just magic though rather than a living thing in any way, or else it would have had substance and stayed inside Laios’s stomach.

    Finally, as we are getting deeper into the dungeon, I feel like the show is starting to have a bit of a darker tone. I criticized the show in the early episodes for being so lighthearted when the adventure is ostensibly about saving Laios’s sister. However, the tone has gradually shifted as things have (literally) become darker and there are fewer other adventurers around. The threat of death has also increased a lot recently compared to the silly fun they had early in the show with the mushroom monster and Marcy getting caught up in the plants.

    • earlgrey0@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      11 months ago

      Aaaaaahhh! You see it! The dark under current for the plot! I am really happy that the anime is being adapted by fans of the source material because they’re taking great care to make sure the slow burn plot and darker elements come through. It makes me sooo happy that the anime onlys are able to pick up on it. I really hope that you continue to enjoy learning more about the dungeon and characters.

      The fact the author put in the details to build a bit of a monster ecosystem makes the dungeon feel so vibrant. It makes me understand why Laios is such a geek it.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      11 months ago

      I don’t recall the “jester’s” name being mentioned. Yet.

      But I’ll point out some things, they are an elf. Which means they are very, very long lived.

      They threaten Laios with powerful magic, so probably not just a “jester”.

      And as I promised in earlier discussions, the story shifts more and more into gear as they approach the floor that the red dragon is on.

      Things are about to get dark, and I’m not referring to the amount of light in the dungeon.

  • ludrol@bookwormstory.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    11 months ago

    The Fight Between Carnival and Lent by Peter Bruegel

    Screenshot from the episode

    I think both of these paintings gave off the same vibe.

    I really like Chilchick. His character, skills and realistic view at the world, make him something more than the sum of his parts.

    The dark elf jester (I think she is a bard) has also came up in the opening, but she isn’t in the still image but she runs up towards the group just to not be left behind. I wonder how did she retain the memories between the paintings. Is she cursed or something that she can’t escape to the real world?

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      We’ll be finding out a lot more about them.

      My suspicion is that the paintings might be actual portals to the depicted point in time. Or an attempt to re-create the event.

    • wjs018
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      11 months ago

      It’s like he has always been this weird, but his normal facade is crumbling away a little bit more each episode. It’s a lot of fun. Even Chilchuck didn’t want to trigger his weirdness by mentioning the mimic.

      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzOPM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        More like Falyn was always around to “translate” his oddities to let the caring person he is come through, but now he is on his own, and struggles with keeping his monster-geekdom from seeming callous, at times.

  • ⓝⓞ🅞🅝🅔@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    10 months ago

    I want to know if we will be seeing that elf again?!

    What about these worlds within the paintings? How are they connected? Are the beings alive?!

  • rikkaB
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    6 months ago

    Dungeon Meshi - episode 6

    banner image


    Additional Links

    All discussions

    Episode Link Episode Link
    1 Link 14 Link
    2 Link 15 Link
    3 Link 16 Link
    4 Link 17 Link
    5 Link 18 Link
    6 Link 19 Link
    7 Link 20 Link
    8 Link 21 Link
    9 Link 22 Link
    10 Link 23 Link
    11 Link 24 Link
    12 Link
    13 Link

    This post was created by a bot. Message the mod team for feedback and comments. The original source code can be found on GitHub.